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what are the Aughts?
oh cool, we call the the naughties here in the uk, should have figured. Hmmm, my number one from the 00s would probably be Johnny Depp!
YAY!!!*Already rooting for Gael.(The Aughts are the '00s).
Gael. Jake. Paul Walker.OK, that last one was a joke.Rob
top 10 (not in order) off the top of my head: depp, crowe, jude law, sean penn, clooney, bernal, cheadle, owen, dicaprio, denzel, and... will smith? jim carrey? jamie foxx? nicholson? cruise? pitt? hrm... this is tough.
Hooray! Looking forward to it.
If Russell Crowe makes Nathaniel's top ten, I will watch A Beautiful Mind once a month for the rest of my life. (Okay, that's a lie, but I'm confident Nathaniel won't rank Crowe that highly) I think his top ten will include Jude Law (three "major" filmbitch nods, one win), Gael Garcia Bernal, Ewan McGregor, Tony Leung, Jim Broadbent, Ian McKellan (maybe not, but around there). Thinking about it, though, there isn't anyone like Nicole Kidman for men - no one who's made that determined attempt to ascend into the pantheon. Or will Nathaniel disagree? Can't wait to find out.
Russell Crowe would be the male equivalent of Nicole Kidman, only that Nathaniel isn't as fond of his work. I think his top 10 will easily include Jude Law, Tony Leung, Ewan McGregor, Gael García Bernal and probably Johnny Depp (Based on Nat's love for his Pirates performance), Jim Broadbent and probably Tom Wilkinson and Ian McKellen. Can't wait for the countdown, whenever that is.
well, I wasn't really trying to guess Nathaniel's list, more just brainstorming my own, however...if man has made "a determined attempt to ascend into the pantheon" over the last five years, a la Nicole Kidman, I don't see who you could pick other than Crowe.Remember before 2000 he was best known for well-regarded but not very widely seen roles in LA Confidential and The Insider. Since Gladiator he's gone mega-star in both a critical and commercial sense. How can you argue with Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind, Master and Commander, and Cinderella Man? He fronted four consecutive best picture nominees, including two winners (counting the insider, not CM, obviously). No one else has a track record that good in the last five years, critically and commercially (even if CM was a commercial disappointment). Kidman's big advantage here is she's been much busier.Anyway, Crowe is clearly quite the asshole, but it's hard to argue against him for #1. I see cases for Penn, Depp, maybe Law, maybe Clooney.(This is of course just how I see it -- Nathaniel is clearly entitled to his own view of what factors, and indeed what performances, are worthwhile and which aren't. I'm looking forward to seeing who he picks...)
"Amores Perros", "Y Tu Mama Tambien", "Bad Education", "The Motorcycle Diaries".Two alredy classic movies, one spellbinding turn, non-stop hits... Argue THAT.And this year "Babel" and "Toto" are coming.
kewl i think this should be awesome!!!!!!
Crowe has a tremendously strong body of work, but if I were going by what I liked and the quality of the work, it's not that impressive (to me, at least). The only movie and performance of his that I have genuine enthusiasm for is Master and Commander. Gladiator was a star-making performance and all, but I'm totally indifferent towards it. I pretty much hated everything about A Beautiful Mind, his overly mannered performance included. Cinderella Man was more middle-brow Ron Howard sap, and while his performance was good, it was hardly revelatory or trascendent in any way (Academy voters seemed to think that as well).I find the work of Law, Bernal, Penn, McGregor, etc much more interesting, impressive, daring, worthy and substantial.
where are the film bitch awards? i'm getting very impatient.
WOW "A History of Violence" and "Brokeback Mountain" were clearly ahead of the rest.Loved the medal to Viggo, the gold to Cronenberg, Ledger, Bello and Lubezki.Great choices overall!
Yay indeed!Law and Bernal will obviously be at the top.Depp is bound to get a top ten placement at the least (if for PotC alone).Also have high expectations for Bridges, McGregor, Wilkinson, Bale, Mortensen, Leung, Broadbent, Bettany, Bloom (!), Owen...Crowe probably won't make it at all? I mean, I know you don't "like" him, Nat, but years from now when people look back at this decade, they'll be nary an actor (Depp possible exception) better remembered from it. :(Though I bet Cruise won't either- and justly so! :)Can't wait!!!!!!!!!
How about Javier Bardem, he would definitely make it into my top 10 based on 'Before Night Falls' alone, not to mention The Sea Inside and The Dancer Upstairs.
I cannot wait to see how high Ralph Fiennes will be ranked.
to right and the anonymous right after arkaan: Yeah, you're right. For some reason, after pushing him out of the top spot, I didn't even bother to consider him for that "ascending" position. My bad. If it weren't for Nathaniel's dislike of Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, I think Clooney would be a great contender for the top spot. anonymous-after-isaacpinkf, I tend to agree with you about Crowe's performances, though I didn't care for Master and Commander at all. Russell Crowe is a better actor when he's not a superstar (see Proof/Romper Stomper/LA Confidential/The Insider), imo. And since I hate him as a star, it works quite well (:wink)
YAY!The sad thing is, when you were doing the actress countdown I made my own list for the ladies and men and found the men's list was so much easier. And it's probably because men just have more roles or something, but in the actress list there reached a point where I was throwing people on for one or two performances that I merely felt i liked, whereas the actor's list had pretty much an entire 100 men who I felt good placing there.My top 10 was something like:Christian BaleGael Garcia Bernal*George Clooney*Johnny Depp*Chiwitel EjioforJude Law*Ewan McGregorClive OwenSean PennGeoffrey Rushor something like that.* denotes men I feel very confident will be very highly ranked on Nat's list.
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