tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post114156640119206930..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Making a List. Checking it Twice.NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141700914875254762006-03-06T22:08:00.000-05:002006-03-06T22:08:00.000-05:00Thank god IMDb has an awards page and that we will...Thank god IMDb has an awards page and that we will be able to glance at it at any moment and see what was really the best picture of the year. Surely 90% of Best Picture prizes counts for something.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141697986902979692006-03-06T21:19:00.000-05:002006-03-06T21:19:00.000-05:00Nathaniel, Definitely agree concerning the "unprec...Nathaniel,<BR/> Definitely agree concerning the "unprecendented" aspect of 'Crash' upsetting the favorite, and that there's an agenda at work surrounding the 'Brokeback' snub.<BR/> <BR/> Even 'Shakespeare in Love' had a Best Picture Golden Globe going for it (not to mention the juggernaut know as Harvey Weinstein) when it surprised for Best Picture at the Oscars, and won a total of seven Academy Awards. This year 'Crash' had Roger Ebert's backing, and that's about it (meanwhile, 'Brokeback' was picking up a trunk full of awards). I don't recall anyone stating 'Crash' looked like Best Picture of the year material when it opened last spring, yet 'Brokeback' was considered a front-runner for the year's top movie upon the film's release. <BR/><BR/>I feel there has to be politics at work, or 'Crash' would have made a dent in the 'Brokeback' armour <I>before</I> Sunday night. Looking at Oscar history, the way the Best Picture award played out (with no other upsets in the top categories, no third viable Best Picture contender to cause a "split" vote, and no film sidetracking 'Brokeback's phenomenal run through the awards season) something smells and doesn't add up. <BR/><BR/>I have to wonder how many 'Crash' voters even SAW 'Brokeback' before marking their ballots (a personal Oscar story: right after the Best Picture announcement, my cousin's husband, who refused to see 'Brokeback' because, well, it's about those gay cowboys, started trying to explain why 'Crash' legitimately won Best Picture, whereupon I made a swift exit). <BR/><BR/>'Brokeback' still will make film history, but the 'Crash' win will forever allow conservatives to state, "hey, 'Brokeback' wasn't the best movie that year, it lost Best Picture" ignoring the abundance of awards 'Brokeback' won during 2005-06. You better believe a significent number of Oscar voters knew the Best Picture Academy Award takes precedence in the minds of most people when they're reviewing the "best" of any given year, and these voters wanted to make damn sure 'Brokeback' had no place on that short list, regardless of the fact the film's many merits are enough to have marked 'Brokeback' as one of the most deserving winners of the Best Picture Oscar.Vertigo's Psychohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17701774152300870403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141660455472435122006-03-06T10:54:00.000-05:002006-03-06T10:54:00.000-05:00anonymous --not quite that simple. i understand wh...anonymous --not quite that simple. i understand why people feel that way but it's not that simple.<BR/><BR/>crash not winning would not be seen as racism because there was no reason to ever expect it to win (having no significant precursor support). And other films about racism have won the honor so it's hardly a group refusing to acknowledge something.<BR/><BR/>and as for capote providing a best actor win? I love truman capote but awarding a straight actor a statue for playing a nelly queen is hardly forward thinking pro-gay. It's just a reiteration of what homophobes think gay people are like.<BR/><BR/>anyway -an upset of this magnitude is unprecendented so there has to be a reason: i.e. homophobia.<BR/><BR/>and to everyone else:<BR/>i am still alive. you're sweet to worry.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141657764528196232006-03-06T10:09:00.000-05:002006-03-06T10:09:00.000-05:00I can't believe Crash won . This was like the best...I can't believe Crash won . This was like the best surprise ever for me and all my friends watching last night. We all agreed that the movie was better than Brokeback. It's too easy to say that BBM didn't win cause of homophobia. Why would they honor a gay character in best leading actor if they were like that. I guess Crash supporters would be saying that the academy is racist if their movie had lost ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141656542626410242006-03-06T09:49:00.000-05:002006-03-06T09:49:00.000-05:00But, if it were any other awards show it wouldn't ...But, if it were any other awards show it wouldn't matter, but it feels particularly stinging coming from the group that gets their winners titles plastered everywhere and will be looked upon in years to come and people will go "ooh, it won Best Picture"...<BR/><BR/>Man, imagine if Gustavo had have lost Score... BBM would've only gotten two awards. And, yes, Memoirs would have the highest tally.<BR/><BR/>4 films got 3 awards. Crash, BBM, Memoirs and King Kong.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141656251829295702006-03-06T09:44:00.000-05:002006-03-06T09:44:00.000-05:00"And if you can't fix it you've got to stand it."C..."And if you can't fix it you've got to stand it."<BR/><BR/>Chin up, friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141656016664122632006-03-06T09:40:00.000-05:002006-03-06T09:40:00.000-05:00I am saddened because my favorite movie of the 5 d...I am saddened because my favorite movie of the 5 didn't win- I am referring to Munich.<BR/><BR/>Come on, people. This is only an awards show. We need some perspective in our lives. As someone said, the Oscars do not indicate which one is the best picture of this year. Only time will tell that.<BR/><BR/>My favorite moment of the night – the introduction of Robert Altman by Meryl and Lilly. Very funny.Pedrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11945607431696039228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141655627480978912006-03-06T09:33:00.000-05:002006-03-06T09:33:00.000-05:00The guilty white liberals could vote for Crash and...The guilty white liberals could vote for Crash and pat themselves on the back for being progressive when they really aren't. Hollywood is still scared to death of the homos and it only honors those who are sexless. Considering how surprisingly well Brokeback did at the boxoffice, maybe Hollywood really is out of touch, just not in the way the Focus on the Family folks think.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08713972514003681234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141655076041916222006-03-06T09:24:00.000-05:002006-03-06T09:24:00.000-05:00That is freakish...And where is Nathaniel?That is freakish...<BR/>And where is Nathaniel?OhMyTrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15460216387416413714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141653691815077612006-03-06T09:01:00.000-05:002006-03-06T09:01:00.000-05:00You know what (else) is scary? Memoirs could so e...You know what (else) is scary? Memoirs could so easily have taken Best Score, and could so easily have had the biggest award tally of the night.<BR/><BR/>RobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141651483407808212006-03-06T08:24:00.000-05:002006-03-06T08:24:00.000-05:00Rebecca only won two trophies when it won Best Pic...Rebecca only won two trophies when it won Best Picture.John Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778817752411507792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141651057177676082006-03-06T08:17:00.000-05:002006-03-06T08:17:00.000-05:00Oh, wait. I forgot that it won editing as well.I s...Oh, wait. I forgot that it won editing as well.<BR/><BR/>I suppose the whole "if you don't get an editing nomination you can't win best picture" trumps "if you don't get nominated for best picture at the globes you can't win best picture" rule don't it.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141650786185903132006-03-06T08:13:00.000-05:002006-03-06T08:13:00.000-05:00"This is when we homos do ourselves our own diserv..."This is when we homos do ourselves our own diservice by bitching that the loss of a gay film at the Oscars is because of homophobia. Its not the case with CRASH winning - sorry. "<BR/><BR/>maybe if Brokeback wasn't <I>actually</I> the best movie of the year and actually hadn't won the PGA, WGA, DGA, Globe, BAFTA, Venice, tonnes of critix and a few guild awards. Maybe if Crash didn't only had the WGA, SAG and Chicago Film Critix.<BR/><BR/>Is this the first time since <I>Grand Hotel</I> in 1932 that a film has won such few awards. That movie won Best Picture and Best Picture only (from 1 nomination) and now <I>Crash</I> has won 2. <BR/><BR/>This is SHAMEFUL. How can a film such as <I>Brokeback</I> lose to a movie like <I>Crash</I> (which I admittedly like).<BR/><BR/>This is a black day for AMPAS and I am not being hyperbolic when I say that they will never live this down. Never. Outrageous. Pathetic.<BR/><BR/>I could write so many more superlatives but the one that I actually am feeling the most:<BR/><BR/>INSULTED.<BR/><BR/>Not as a gay person, or whatever. But as FILM LOVER. I am disgusted and insulted that a movie such as <I>Brokeback</I> could go home not only with only 3 awards, but without Best Picture. <BR/><BR/>And ANG won! So it's not like "not enough people saw the movie." PLENTY of people saw the movie.<BR/><BR/>The shit is gonna hit the freakin' fan.<BR/><BR/>(sorry bout swearin)<BR/><BR/>Oh man, this is gonna blow up something shocking.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141647354130096442006-03-06T07:15:00.000-05:002006-03-06T07:15:00.000-05:00its nice to no dat mny ppl folo d watchin oscars w...its nice to no dat mny ppl folo d watchin oscars wid frens ritual...well me n my frens take it 1 step further and have a list of our winners..n match it 2 d real 1s...who comes close get to watch 2 movies a month for the next one year with our money...:(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141646109779817262006-03-06T06:55:00.000-05:002006-03-06T06:55:00.000-05:00I... I... I just...[words fail me]RobI... I... I just...<BR/><BR/>[words fail me]<BR/><BR/>RobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141641024968123322006-03-06T05:30:00.000-05:002006-03-06T05:30:00.000-05:00For once I'm glad the BBC didn't elect to show ANY...For once I'm glad the BBC didn't elect to show ANY coverage of the Oscars at all. This way I can get over my huge sense of shock and trauma in peace and without teaching my 10 year old some language he shouldn't learn just yet. Seen both films and Brokeback broke my heart. Crash just made me feel as if someone sat me down and preached at me - which is not my thing.<BR/><BR/>I'm a boring, middle-aged, married with child, Roman Catholic chutney maker which doesn't fit any demographic I've read for supposed Brokeback lovers. And you know what, I'm incandescant with fury at AMPAS. Another for the long list of idiotic decisions that we will all look back at and mock in years to come. After the pain has healed a little.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141635152057279802006-03-06T03:52:00.000-05:002006-03-06T03:52:00.000-05:00This oscar night was realy boring, coz most of pre...This oscar night was realy boring, coz most of predictions were right. And when Chrash was named the best picture it was such a shock. I mean, Sixth sense kind of shock. When P.S. Hoffman won i thought it was lame for him to win everything and other actors in his caregory almost nothing, but i didnt think of BBM that way....Wow what a shockAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141634363058342792006-03-06T03:39:00.000-05:002006-03-06T03:39:00.000-05:00Crash has ALWAYS been in the "dangerous zone" of s...Crash has ALWAYS been in the "dangerous zone" of self-parody.adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141632849526918652006-03-06T03:14:00.000-05:002006-03-06T03:14:00.000-05:00What does that mean, brad?What does that mean, brad?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141632301804886022006-03-06T03:05:00.000-05:002006-03-06T03:05:00.000-05:00The fact that BBM won every major precursor actual...The fact that BBM won every major precursor actually hurt it in my opinion. As others have said - the film peaked early and honestly, has entered into the dangerous zone of self parody the last month.<BR/><BR/>I didn't love the film, to be honest. And apparently neither did most of the Academy. If they did, BBM would have won at least ONE of the major acting honors.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing more offputting than feeling 'obligated' to vote for the film that is the front runner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141631716925143882006-03-06T02:55:00.000-05:002006-03-06T02:55:00.000-05:00i am so so depressed today...can we like declare M...i am so so depressed today...<BR/><BR/>can we like declare MARCH 6 as the day Brokeback lost to a stupid film? i'll even make it an universal holiday, we should mourn, we should pay respects...<BR/><BR/>the academy lost all its reputation and not mention the credibility... because of what happened tonight, it made GG and even the BAFTA a more credible and more believable award giving body...<BR/><BR/>I'm out of words really, It's nice to see that i wasn't the only one pissed off with what happened... Brokeback Mountain is my favorite film of all time and i say this with no prejudice, im not gay but i love love the film. just so happens that the academy failed to embrace the academy the way i did...<BR/><BR/>this is the biggest upset in the whole 78 years the AMPAS was giving awards.<BR/><BR/>Can't believe that they even call that award best picture. it was so full of crapola, it doesn't even deserve a slot in the top5 nor in the thop 10 or even in my top 50...<BR/><BR/>i am so so and really really mad, depressed, enraged, pissed off....<BR/><BR/>http://racsoawards.madur.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141631581592388892006-03-06T02:53:00.000-05:002006-03-06T02:53:00.000-05:00I personally don't believe that BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN...I personally don't believe that BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN is going to hold up well over time. I think it is very of the "now" in which it is created and that things like the terrible makeup will make the film look dated (and no I'm not talking about the date in which the film is set - I know its a period piece) very quickly - but that's just me.<BR/><BR/>At any rate - most of us know that the best films of the year never win the Oscar - so why would this year be any different just because a lot of people embraced the front runner?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141630339104239882006-03-06T02:32:00.000-05:002006-03-06T02:32:00.000-05:00The thing is, I'm kind of embarrassed for Crash......The thing is, I'm kind of embarrassed for Crash... moreso than for BBM.<BR/><BR/>Everyone knows this was a travesty. Even Paul Haggis was quoted as saying "hey, I'm proud of my movie and all, but really Brokeback DOES deserve to win".<BR/><BR/>And now instead of being remembered as the little indie that could, a pretty decent (if you're feeling generous) movie about racism by a first-time director, it will now and forever be known as "the film that jipped Brokeback Mountain". It will be the butt of jokes for all time.<BR/><BR/>"Hey, remember in 2005 when Crash beat Brokeback Mountain? Man, that AMPAS is STUPID."adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141629792161047122006-03-06T02:23:00.000-05:002006-03-06T02:23:00.000-05:00I think...For me I am terribly upset Brokeback los...I think...<BR/><BR/>For me I am terribly upset Brokeback lost. But I guess, having it win the Oscar for Best Pic would have been amazing - but having it lose doesn't take any of my love away from the film you know?<BR/><BR/>Just because AMPAS couldn't get behind a film that I personally found to be more significant and movie than their chosen winner, doesn't mean it wasn't a better film.<BR/><BR/>Brokeback Mountain meant more to me than Crash ever could. And yeah, I am kinda getting used to AMPAS and myself having slightly different opinions on movies.<BR/><BR/>Crash wasn't an awful movie -- it just wasn't as good as I thought everyone was saying. Keep your heads' up everyone. There have been PLENTY of undeserving best picture winners, and just because it lost the big prize -- doesn't mean it wasn't the Best Film of 2005.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1141629559668929682006-03-06T02:19:00.000-05:002006-03-06T02:19:00.000-05:00Hahaha, well said adam kHahaha, well said adam kAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com