tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post116629721045237067..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: SAG Nominations (What is an Ensemble?)NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1169774969506292592007-01-25T20:29:00.000-05:002007-01-25T20:29:00.000-05:00Hi! Nice forum www.blogger.com! Thanks. viagra [u...Hi! Nice forum www.blogger.com! Thanks. <BR/>viagra <BR/>[url=http://www.welnet4u.de/wf/viagra/]order viagra[/url] [url=http://www.welnet4u.de/wf/eroticart/]erotic art[/url] [url=http://www.welnet4u.de/wf/hydrocodone/]buy hydrocodone online[/url] <BR/>http://www.welnet4u.de/wf/viagra/ <BR/>http://www.welnet4u.de/wf/hydrocodone/ <BR/>http://www.welnet4u.de/wf/eroticart/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1169117523114762272007-01-18T05:52:00.000-05:002007-01-18T05:52:00.000-05:00Hi! Cool site www.blogger.com! 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The Best Actres category will be...<BR/><BR/>Penelope Cruz (Volver)<BR/>Judi Dench (Notes on a Scandal)<BR/>Maggie Gyllenhaal (Sherrybaby)<BR/>Helen Mirren (The Queen)<BR/>Meryl Strep (The Devil Wears Prada)jazzman86https://www.blogger.com/profile/06568356868016876694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168286310990963682007-01-08T14:58:00.000-05:002007-01-08T14:58:00.000-05:00My predictions for the acting oscar nominees are: ...My predictions for the acting oscar nominees are:<BR/> <BR/><BR/>ACTOR<BR/>Leonardo DiCaprio Ryan Gosling Peter O'Toole <BR/>Wills Smith <BR/>Forest Whitaker<BR/><BR/>ACTRES<BR/>Penelope Cruz<BR/>Judi Dench<BR/>Maggie Gyllenhaal (the academy sometimes surprising us)<BR/>Helen Mirren<BR/>Meryl Streep<BR/><BR/>SUPPORTING ACTOR<BR/>Ben Affleck<BR/>Alan Arkin<BR/>Eddie Murphy<BR/>Jack Nicholson<BR/>Michael Sheen<BR/><BR/>SUPPORTING ACTRES<BR/>Adriana Barraza<BR/>Cate Blanchett<BR/>Abigail Breslin<BR/>Jennifer Hudson<BR/>Rinko Kikuchi<BR/> <BR/>And i really hope that Little Miss Sunshine take the SAG Ensemblejazzman86https://www.blogger.com/profile/06568356868016876694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168111967399955102007-01-06T14:32:00.000-05:002007-01-06T14:32:00.000-05:00I never would have thought of a casting director a...I never would have thought of a casting director award. That's a good idea though. They've got to be one of the few groups of people who have such a major impact on a movie and don't get nominations.<BR/>Maybe they don't because what they do is seen more as administration than craft?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168110710252831322007-01-06T14:11:00.000-05:002007-01-06T14:11:00.000-05:00i believe "sustained" would imply being present in...i believe "sustained" would imply being present in each scene and a clear through line/character arc... a full characterization. <BR/><BR/>that's my interpretation at least and i still say his <EM>Blood Diamond</EM> work is capable charismatic movie star stuff but totally unremarkable otherwise* --and would NEVER be in play if the film hadn't just opened. Such a shame because that only teaches Hollywood to keep backloading. <BR/><BR/>* and please note: I'm not a DiCaprio hater. I'm inclined to enjoy his work. Been a fan since <EM>This Boy's Life</EM> and I'd list <EM>Gangs of New York</EM> as his only subpar performance. I even thought he was good in <EM>The Beach</EM>NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168060953469548972007-01-06T00:22:00.000-05:002007-01-06T00:22:00.000-05:00What does "sustained" adult performance mean exact...What does "sustained" adult performance mean exactly? Other than that it doesn't have to better than his work in Gilbert Grape?adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168053675244275002007-01-05T22:21:00.000-05:002007-01-05T22:21:00.000-05:00anonymous. manohla dargis, like all critics (inclu...anonymous. manohla dargis, like all critics (including me) is fallible.<BR/><BR/>Leo's best sustained adult performance is <EM>The Departed</EM> no contest. <BR/>I scratch my head how anyone could see them both and prefer his work in <EM>Blood Diamond</EM>... i don't see one significant thing about it that makes it stand out from any other able film carrying performance. is it the accent that's impressing people?<BR/><BR/>BUT i do agree with your point that a good performance is a good performance even if it's in a bad film. very true.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168051720646518212007-01-05T21:48:00.000-05:002007-01-05T21:48:00.000-05:00Glenn, I beg to differ. The LMS ensemble was inde...Glenn, I beg to differ. The LMS ensemble was indeed exceptional. Toni Collette had a LOT to do, it just wasn't showy. Greg Kinnear was amazingly perfect as the father. And I'm kind of in love with Abigail Breslin. Carrell of course was great, too.adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168049467766369592007-01-05T21:11:00.000-05:002007-01-05T21:11:00.000-05:00Nat, that makes much more sense. Plus, that way th...Nat, that makes much more sense. Plus, that way the Academy doesn't have to give out an extra stack of statues (isn't that one of the reasons they're cutting all the eligibility numbers down? so they don't give out as many statues)Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168046815973629962007-01-05T20:26:00.000-05:002007-01-05T20:26:00.000-05:00Aw hell, I'm sick of you pussies putting down a he...Aw hell, I'm sick of you pussies putting down a helluva performance by DiCaprio in Blood Diamond. Did I love the movie? Well, no. Did I love DiCaprio in that movie?--you're damn right. No less than Manohla Dargis thought it was his best sustained adult performance ever. And I agree. Does it matter that it wasn't in one of your or even "my" fave flicks of the year.<BR/>No way, a good performance is a good performance, period. And that was a very good perf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168041606680824632007-01-05T19:00:00.000-05:002007-01-05T19:00:00.000-05:00jess -maybe you're right. they do screw up every c...jess -maybe you're right. they do screw up every category so what's one more?<BR/><BR/>but i feel if we need an award for groups it might be more appropriate for a best casting oscar to be introduced. casting directors do contribute A LOT to how a film turns out and they have no way to win an Oscar.<BR/><BR/>at least actors have other categories.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168034626542919342007-01-05T17:03:00.000-05:002007-01-05T17:03:00.000-05:00Ben was great in Hollywoodland. PeriodBen was great in Hollywoodland. PeriodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168032002485116472007-01-05T16:20:00.000-05:002007-01-05T16:20:00.000-05:00I still don't understand the thinking that says th...I still don't understand the thinking that says that because the Academy would likely make bad choices in the ensemble category, that it shouldn't exist at all. I think it should, if only to acknowlege that such a thing <I>should</I> be regarded. And sometimes they might get it right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168026550586916842007-01-05T14:49:00.000-05:002007-01-05T14:49:00.000-05:00Just came back from seen Borat which just got rele...Just came back from seen Borat which just got released? May I ask, what the f'ck is so funny about it? Didn't mind the political incorrectness but that is not enough to make someone laugh. Sigh.<BR/><BR/>Hope the Academy will not buy into the trap of nominating Baron Cohen, especially because that would mean either Gosling or DiCaprio are out. Major award fellony.Paxton Hernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311147658112558727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168022527209630462007-01-05T13:42:00.000-05:002007-01-05T13:42:00.000-05:00Ben Affleck is exactly where he should be...in car...Ben Affleck is exactly where he should be...in career purgatory.<BR/><BR/>Are the SAGs now the most legitimate and reliably predictive Oscar precursor? (Is that because actors make up the largest branch of AMPAS?) It just seems like actors nominated for Globes rarely if ever make the shortlist when the SAGs pass on them, but the reveerse often works very well in the Globe-snubbed actors' favor. <BR/><BR/>Pity this scenario didn't pan out for Michelle Pfeiffer in 'White Oleander' a few years back. Oy gevalt!<BR/><BR/>MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168021181101948042007-01-05T13:19:00.000-05:002007-01-05T13:19:00.000-05:00aslo Ben Affleck... he did great job. He was perfe...aslo Ben Affleck... he did great job. He was perfect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168021095909492262007-01-05T13:18:00.000-05:002007-01-05T13:18:00.000-05:00Yeah, where the f**k is emily blunt?Yeah, where the f**k is emily blunt?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168018919666487992007-01-05T12:42:00.000-05:002007-01-05T12:42:00.000-05:00What is an ensemble?It's pretty simple. Every (liv...What is an ensemble?<BR/><BR/>It's pretty simple. Every (live action) film has an ensemble: a cast of principals that carry the primary story. They don't necessarily all have to work together. Sometimes, like in <I>Hollywoodland</I> and <I>Babel</I>, the principals are separated by time or geography and can't work together. <BR/><BR/>Ensembles can vary in size. They start with a baseline of essential actors, and other less essential actors may be added on a discretionary basis. For <I>The Devil Wears Prada</I>, the essential ensemble has to include protagonists Meryl Streep, Anne Hathaway, Stanley Tucci, and Emily Blunt (and I would add non-protagonists Adrian Grenier and Simon Baker for playing integral parts in Andrea's development). Everyone else is a judgment call: Tracie Thoms (Lily)? Rich Sommer (Doug)? Daniel Sunjata (James Holt)? Tibor Feldman (Irv Ravitz)? Ask yourself whether they actively drive the story forward or are just supporters or foils. (Even Gisele Bundchen furthers the plot a little.)<BR/><BR/>To me, the best ensembles are the ones that DO get to work together. This seems to be more common in comedies than dramas. And it's why my choice for best ensemble of 2006 was <I>Little Miss Sunshine</I>. The screenwriter took an egalitarian approach so that almost every family member got to work with the other. And while Toni Collette didn't have much to do, she was more important than you'd think.<BR/><BR/>Finally, an Oscar for Best Ensemble would be a horrible idea. The SAG Award already demonstrates that Hollywood really has no clue as to identifying and rewarding ensembles, favoring bigger casts and bigger names and paying no attention to the story. <BR/><BR/>In that vein, I could argue that the best ensembles are mostly determined when the script is finalized, and the actors who play the roles are little more than finishing touches. I realize that the eventual movie will deviate from the script, and the actors can generate some unwritten chemistry, but you have to wonder how much of a good ensemble is preordained.Neel Mehtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286549029037039134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168014521892883232007-01-05T11:28:00.000-05:002007-01-05T11:28:00.000-05:00I'm one of those people who thinks that Oscar shou...I'm one of those people who thinks that Oscar should have a Best Ensemble category. So what that if they have one they might abuse it? Don't they abuse most of the categories anyway? Or does that make me too cynical about the Oscars? <BR/><BR/>At least if they had a Best Ensemble category there would be a chance of them awarding great ensembles as a whole - how great would it have been for instance if the entire cast of Gosford Park had been nominated?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168009792037093192007-01-05T10:09:00.000-05:002007-01-05T10:09:00.000-05:00I'm firmly in the Kikuchi team. Not necessarily be...I'm firmly in the Kikuchi team. Not necessarily because she was so great (i wouldn't nominate her), but she just had a lot more to do than Barraza. I mean, Barraza does what? She sighs a bunch, looks happy at a wedding and then screams hysterically at the end. <BR/><BR/>But then, I didn't think any of the <I>Babel</I> cast had much to other than than look pensive or scream a lot. I blame the fact that none of those characters had a third act. They all just ended at the second.<BR/><BR/>I wanted to know what happened between Brad and Cate's marriage. What happened to the maid in Mexico. What happened to the Japanese girl and her father? etc. But instead it just kind of ended and it annoyed me. Ugh. That film is so frustrating.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1168002836115728352007-01-05T08:13:00.000-05:002007-01-05T08:13:00.000-05:00it seems to me that there is a little bit of Rinko...it seems to me that there is a little bit of Rinko Kikuchi backlash from some people on here!<BR/><BR/>I personally thought she was more affecting in Babel than Adrianna Bazzara, but like other people have stated, that is just my individual opinion.<BR/><BR/>I just think it unfair that a wonderful performance is being called gimmicky. I've seen deaf roles before, and none of them are as moving and tragic as this one. Well played by the actress who gets straight through to the character, rather than getting caught up in the gimmick of playing deaf.<BR/><BR/>Bazzara was great though as well. Babel is where it is at for best supporting actress. I'm not sure why everyone is so keen on Breslin either, she was adorable but I mean... that's what child actors do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1167996383619776632007-01-05T06:26:00.000-05:002007-01-05T06:26:00.000-05:00The Little Miss Sunshine cast was good, but not ex...The <I>Little Miss Sunshine</I> cast was good, but not exceptional. Collette doesn't really have anything to do, Kinnear is, well, Kinnear. Arkin is fun but disappears about halfway through and Breslin is adorable but it certainly ain't on the level of, say, Anna Paquin (in relation to other child/oscar scenarios). My favourite was Steve Carell.<BR/><BR/>I do <I>really</I> like <I>The Devil Wears Prada</I>. I'm taking a stand for the popcorn movie. Just cause it ain't masterpiece theatre, doesn't mean it can't be the best of the year.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1167994986301323072007-01-05T06:03:00.000-05:002007-01-05T06:03:00.000-05:00The Devil Wears Prada has one excellent performanc...The Devil Wears Prada has one excellent performance. Streep. Game, set, match. Stanley Tucci was "cute." Emily Blunt... blech.<BR/><BR/>Best Ensembles of the year:<BR/><BR/>Volver<BR/>Hollywoodland (Lois Smith, Bob Hoskins, Diane Lane, Joe Spano and yes, even Ben Affleck wipe the damn floor with Prada)<BR/>The Departed<BR/>Little Children<BR/>The Queen (minus the egregious Alec Jennings turn as Prince Charles)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com