tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post2556578251267313827..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: My Supporting Actor BallotNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-51504166717781689182009-01-13T12:49:00.000-05:002009-01-13T12:49:00.000-05:00My ballot: Mathieu Amalric … A Christmas TaleJosh ...My ballot: <BR/><BR/>Mathieu Amalric … A Christmas Tale<BR/>Josh Brolin … Milk<BR/>Emile Hirsch … Milk<BR/>Heath Ledger … The Dark Knight <BR/>Eddie Marsan … Happy-Go-LuckyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-80517343691813568102009-01-13T08:47:00.000-05:002009-01-13T08:47:00.000-05:00It's disappeared!It's disappeared!Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16638478847775628906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-18949596797539479412009-01-12T04:45:00.000-05:002009-01-12T04:45:00.000-05:00Nat: I guess I would simply like to read some kind...Nat: I guess I would simply like to read some kind of explanation why you interpret Heath's role as lead (more convincing than "I've rewatched it recently and that's what I think" or "because he puts the story in motion") is all. Oh well, I imagine there is an explanation pending with your nominations for Lead Actor, right?<BR/><BR/>And maybe I'd let go if I was the only one having him so firmly and unarguably in supporting, but as evidenced by the comments here, the majority seems to agree with me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-3742302127732296762009-01-12T03:05:00.000-05:002009-01-12T03:05:00.000-05:00I get what you're saying, but I actually think DOU...I get what you're saying, but I actually think DOUBT is a career best for PSH.Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15537102815681623472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-28494826209509824532009-01-12T01:37:00.000-05:002009-01-12T01:37:00.000-05:00My own list:- Josh Brolin - Milk- Stephen Dillane ...My own list:<BR/><BR/>- Josh Brolin - Milk<BR/>- Stephen Dillane - Savage Grace<BR/>- James Franco - Milk<BR/>- Bill Irwin - Rachel Getting Married<BR/>- Heath Ledger - The Dark KnightUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756810421569628669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-18334231450657065462009-01-12T00:06:00.000-05:002009-01-12T00:06:00.000-05:00notluke i realize i've been talking about "categor...<B>notluke</B> i realize i've been talking about "category fraud" too long to not disappoint people every year. I accept that.<BR/><BR/>but i also think it's not really fair that promoting someone, as you may see it, is the same as making very pointed statements about the abuse of the system when people like Jamie Foxx in Collateral are nominated as supporting players, you know?<BR/><BR/>ah, well. the lead/supporting thing will be the death of me. <BR/><BR/>it also unfortunately seems to negate conversations of merits of performances which is more what i'm interested in anyway...NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-25045491120757309922009-01-11T19:30:00.000-05:002009-01-11T19:30:00.000-05:00Also, I haven't seen Rachel Getting Married yet, s...Also, I haven't seen <I>Rachel Getting Married</I> yet, so that's why Bill Irwin isn't on there. <BR/><BR/>I also enjoyed Anil Kapoor in <I>Slumdog Millionaire</I>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-88443424899679529922009-01-11T19:25:00.000-05:002009-01-11T19:25:00.000-05:00My list (both Ledger & Gleeson are arguably le...My list (both Ledger & Gleeson are arguably leads):<BR/><BR/>Robert Downey Jr, <I>Tropic Thunder</I><BR/>Brendan Gleeson, <I>In Bruges</I><BR/>Emile Hirsch, <I>Milk</I><BR/>Heath Ledger, <I>The Dark Knight</I><BR/>Eddie Marsan, <I>Happy-go-Lucky</I><BR/><BR/>Closely followed by Brad Pitt for Burn After Reading. I also liked Haaz Sleiman in 'The Visitor', John Malkovich, Richard Jenkins, & JK Simmons in 'Burn After Reading,' and James Franco in 'Milk.' <BR/><BR/>I don't include Josh Brolin because the character didn't make sense, but I couldn't tell if that was the character or the performance - and I felt that a great performance would have made it clear that it was the character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-48958514705638915712009-01-11T19:23:00.000-05:002009-01-11T19:23:00.000-05:00To each his own, of course, but your putting Ledge...To each his own, of course, but your putting Ledger in lead sort of undermines all your past rants against category frauds. I can see Dent being gray area, perhaps even Gordon like Robert said, but The Joker? "And I thought my jokes were bad." :P<BR/><BR/>I mean, really: the screentime he's given, his clear-cut antagonist status in the story, no character evolution to speak of, the way the script disposes of him quietly just before the big final scene -- from where I am standing <B>everything</B> about him screams supporting. Where's the "grayness" in that? (Kent may be right that "the story revolves around him", but that's only true in a sense it is for any non-superfluous bad guy in any story ever. So surely it's not an acceptable criterion to determine lead-ness.)<BR/><BR/>As for my own ballot - I am still way behind thanks to the wacky release dates Oscarrable films get around here but Ledger, Pitt and Marsan are locks. Loved every moment of each of them on screen.<BR/><BR/>Assuming no one else impresses me, Ralph Fiennes (<I>In Bruges</I>) gets the fourth spot. And, sadly, so far I am drawing blank for number five... Which needs two disclaimers.<BR/><BR/>1. I thought Oldman is absolutely terrific in TDK, but I would have already awarded him for playing this very character in 2005 and I can't see any added value to the part. (That's because he was already pitch-perfect the first time around, but that's beside the point.) So no soup for him.<BR/><BR/>2. A year ago my love for RDJ was unconditional but neither of his two performances everybody went gaga about this year did much for me, I am afraid. Dear AMPAS, if he must get a second nom after none for his much worthier turns in KKBB, <I>A Scanner Darkly</I> and <I>Zodiac</I> -- could it at least be for <I>Charlie Bartlett</I>, please? Thanks. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-71389099862290408802009-01-11T19:15:00.000-05:002009-01-11T19:15:00.000-05:00I disagree with Heath being lead. If Javier Barde...I disagree with Heath being lead. If Javier Bardem was supporting last year, then I don't see why Heath wouldn't be this year. It's basically the same character: plot-moving antagonist with no arc. And I agree that there IS too much going on that doesn't involve Heath to call him a lead.<BR/><BR/>But it's interesting in that now neither the lead nor supporting categories have clear frontrunners. I can only assume your medals will be divvied up somehow among Ledger, Rourke and Penn. And in supporting, who knows.adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32751522721050395112009-01-11T19:14:00.000-05:002009-01-11T19:14:00.000-05:00I humbly submit Eddie Marsan from the film "Happy-...I humbly submit Eddie Marsan from the film "Happy-Go-Lucky". Anyone who saw that film undoubtedly would remember his seething, bitter driver instructor, who at first made for great comic relief and then became rather tragic. (He also made a great vengeful bank robber in Hancock, making great use of his small screen time in the fluff film.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30252633296057160212009-01-11T19:04:00.000-05:002009-01-11T19:04:00.000-05:00Thank you for including Irwin. The way he surround...Thank you for including Irwin. The way he surrounded his character's spinelessness with a tangle of jittery, puppydog emotion was so tricky, and so successful.J.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07815005929352267468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-15408028165730289772009-01-11T18:50:00.000-05:002009-01-11T18:50:00.000-05:00i just sensed fatigue,sometimes we all feel it 200...i just sensed fatigue,sometimes we all feel it 2008 for me is underwhelming with people i geberally love not delivering jolie,streep,dicaprio,pitt,blanchett and winslet in the reader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32501953761583566202009-01-11T18:45:00.000-05:002009-01-11T18:45:00.000-05:00Ralph Fiennes - In BrugesDavid Gulpilil - Australi...Ralph Fiennes - <I>In Bruges</I><BR/>David Gulpilil - <I>Australia</I><BR/>Heath Ledger - <I>The Dark Knight</I><BR/>Steve Le Marquand - <I>Men's Group</I><BR/>Brad Pitt - <I>Burn After Reading</I><BR/><BR/>I'm only really attached to one of those (Ledger) so the other four could easily fall out (and at least two definitely will, I'm certain) when I finally get around to seeing some of the more Oscary movies that haven't been released here.Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08194113062830373898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-47514157618833741732009-01-11T18:40:00.000-05:002009-01-11T18:40:00.000-05:00mr ripley -- i'm not offended but i do think it's...<B>mr ripley</B> -- i'm not offended but i do think it's a little weird to say i'm rushing. I basically have one month to get these all out and i'm only 5 awards in (with 35 to go!) <BR/><BR/>If anything i'm moving too slowly.<BR/><BR/>and, hey, sometimes i agree with Oscar. Doesn't mean i'm lazy. Like, take my <A HREF="http://www.thefilmexperience.net/Awards/2003/awards1.html" REL="nofollow">best actor 2003</A>. It's 5/5 with Oscar but that's exactly how I felt that year.<BR/><BR/><B>derek</B> -- as far as lead/supporting goes. like i've always said gray areas I don't really care. I guess <I>this</I> is where I'm tired! ;) it doesn't make sense to me either but i'm so tired of trying to parse who is lead and who is support that the ones in the gray areas I just make a call and try to stick with it.<BR/><BR/>anyway... i watched <I>The Dark Knight</I> again and it seems completely equal to me between batman / twoface / joker. so I finally just decided we were talking a three lead film... Others will claim different. <BR/><BR/><B>charlie</B> -- agreed on the young actor from Frozen River. He was just outside these top 12. I thought he was quite good.<BR/><BR/><B>YH</B> i just meant number of actual Batman feature films. There was one in the 60s too.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-57750972718352152682009-01-11T17:45:00.000-05:002009-01-11T17:45:00.000-05:00i'm interested to see what role happy-go-lucky pla...i'm interested to see what role happy-go-lucky plays when nominations come out...it certainly seems like the critics have given there blessing...but not so much the guilds.RChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11340006144797496514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-86248334651025978722009-01-11T17:42:00.000-05:002009-01-11T17:42:00.000-05:00I'm only counting six "Batman" films...I'm only counting six "Batman" films. "Batman", "Batman Returns", "Batman Forever", "Batman & Robin", "Batman Begins", "The Dark Knight". What am I missing?<BR/><BR/>I thought that Philip Seymour Hoffman was excellent in "Doubt" and I don't think that he is a "default" nominee at all. He's more deserving of recognition than Robert Downey Jr. is. I'd have placed Heath in supporting, and Dev Patel would have made my roster. Eddie Marsan would replace RDJ. None of the "Milk" guys would be there, but James Franco came the closest. I'd also pick the completely forgotten Bill Irwin.<BR/><BR/>My list:<BR/><BR/>Philip Seymour Hoffman, "Doubt"<BR/>Bill Irwin, "Rachel Getting Married"<BR/>Heath Ledger, "The Dark Knight"<BR/>Eddie Marsan, "Happy-Go-Lucky"<BR/>Dev Patel, "Slumdog Millionaire"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-65228945185149461612009-01-11T16:56:00.001-05:002009-01-11T16:56:00.001-05:00My ballot…BEST SUPPORTING ACTORJosh Brolin- MILKSt...My ballot…<BR/><BR/>BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR<BR/>Josh Brolin- MILK<BR/>Stephen Dillane- SAVAGE GRACE<BR/>James Franco- MILK<BR/>Heath Ledger- THE DARK KNIGHT<BR/>Brad Pitt- BURN AFTER READINGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-70064963156039518072009-01-11T16:56:00.000-05:002009-01-11T16:56:00.000-05:00Nooooooooooooooo! Was so looking forward to Ledger...Nooooooooooooooo! <BR/><BR/>Was so looking forward to Ledger taking his 2nd Film Bitch gold metal. Grrrrrrrr. I mean DARK KNIGHT’s Ledger vs. MILK’s Penn? Talk about a “Sophie’s Choice. <BR/><BR/>Although I’m psyched to see Pitt made it in here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-85570907779800280612009-01-11T16:53:00.000-05:002009-01-11T16:53:00.000-05:00i also liked charlie mcdermott in frozen river. i...i also liked charlie mcdermott in frozen river. i thought he worked wonderfully matching melissa leo and really helped the film come together. i dont know if he'd make my personal shortlist but he'd def be a finalist for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-37220556408361410332009-01-11T16:43:00.000-05:002009-01-11T16:43:00.000-05:00Justin Timberlake- The Love GuruRob Schneider- The...Justin Timberlake- The Love Guru<BR/>Rob Schneider- The Love Guru<BR/>Eddie Izzard- Valkyrie<BR/>Shawn Ashmore- The Ruins<BR/>Bill Irwin- RGMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-29306342977979746942009-01-11T16:40:00.000-05:002009-01-11T16:40:00.000-05:00my point was i feel nat's lisy reeks of fatigue an...my point was i feel nat's lisy reeks of fatigue and we all hang on all yr for the fb awards and when they seem hurried we get miffed,i just got the sense nat had not seen enough films and was not as enthused over these perfs and films as previous years like shortbus or far from heaven or a certain performance like jamie lee in 2003 or meryl in the devil wears prada.<BR/><BR/>nat i really hope you are not offended just sad to see you losing faith or i could be totally wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-14075146176248963502009-01-11T16:34:00.000-05:002009-01-11T16:34:00.000-05:00Nathaniel, I am in Love with you.Nathaniel, I am in Love with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-29819808158544190232009-01-11T16:32:00.000-05:002009-01-11T16:32:00.000-05:00I don't get the Brandon Walters love. Since when d...I don't get the Brandon Walters love. Since when does cuteness qualify as greatness? Pablete, your passion is admirable, but you just offered an exorbitant amount of praise for a kiddie turn that was adequate at best. It's baffling to me why people are so desperate for a great child performance that whenever someone under 12 gets a major part in a major film, they act like it's the second coming of Shirley Temple. Case in point: Jaden Smith in "The Pursuit of Happyness," perhaps the most overpraised turn by a youth ever. Of course he was natural -- he was playing dress-up with his daddy! As for Walters, he's definitely a good find with a bright future but, Oscar nomination?!? Give me a break. (Sorry, I'm not trying to pick a fight, this topic is just - clearly - a pet peeve.)<BR/><BR/>The Jack - <BR/>Good points. But I'm sticking with Supporting.Kurtis Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946031309738374597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-21639194206017195162009-01-11T16:25:00.000-05:002009-01-11T16:25:00.000-05:00Woo! Go Robert!Woo! Go Robert!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com