tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post3185902561336073134..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: The Beautiful Decay of Helena Bonham-CarterNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-89397852103168071062009-09-22T20:18:59.181-04:002009-09-22T20:18:59.181-04:00Oh for f***'s sake you uptight know it all wan...Oh for f***'s sake you uptight know it all wankers. Let her do the films she wants, she doesn't do it for you she does it for herself so back the f*** off. Let her love who she wants, let her chose the film roles she wants. What are you?! Her Mother!!! Get on with your life cause shes getting on with hers no matter what you say.Bellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-38818133033700382832009-07-28T02:15:16.222-04:002009-07-28T02:15:16.222-04:00I'd love to see her team up with David Fincher...I'd love to see her team up with David Fincher again. Or Iain Softley. Her collaborations with Burton are fun but not that well suited to her.<br /><br />It baffles me that HBC only has one Oscar nomination. She has given at least 5 Oscar nomination worthy performances (Hamlet, Howards End, Wings of the Dove, Fight Club, Conversations with Other Women) She's obviously not much liked by the Oscar voters, but that's partly because she does not choose "Oscar bait" films.<br /><br />Sadly I think Wings of the Dove was her best chance to win the Oscar. I think she was better than Dench in '97, but all the fawning over Dench split the "Brit" vote and Hunt snuck in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-14969111632837502042008-02-02T13:03:00.000-05:002008-02-02T13:03:00.000-05:00Have to say that I loved her performance. She disc...Have to say that I loved her performance. She discovers layers of devious calculation, longing, sadness, and genuine maternal warmth that I hadn't seen in previous interpretations. She's also very funny, but not in the grand, theatrical way that we're used to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-53734015052253630692008-01-06T16:57:00.000-05:002008-01-06T16:57:00.000-05:00Great post, great comments. It's HBC's best year i...Great post, great comments. It's HBC's best year in film for a long time, and I'm also inclined to defend her choices in Sweeney Todd, because I think there's comic mileage in how she shrugs her shoulders and just gets down to the dirty work. As you rightly say, Nat, there's no one way to play the role, and her very lack of ambivalence was a valid and funny approach to it, for me -- particularly in this pared-down version.<BR/><BR/>Plus, it's great to see Conversations with Other Women getting so much love here. One of the best surprises I had last year.tim rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893294970751318226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26446731632554160492008-01-06T08:42:00.000-05:002008-01-06T08:42:00.000-05:00i saw "the sisterhood of travelling pants" the oth...i saw "the sisterhood of travelling pants" the other day and alexis bledel looks very much like the young hbc. most especially during the honeychurch era.<BR/><BR/>-ryansumeraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-24473346212447834552008-01-04T10:56:00.000-05:002008-01-04T10:56:00.000-05:00get your lists i need to know your 98 actress and ...get your lists i need to know your 98 actress and supp actress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-65104696027218459972008-01-04T10:55:00.000-05:002008-01-04T10:55:00.000-05:00ok my 5farrowthompsonsarandonmcdonnellpfeifferok my 5<BR/><BR/>farrow<BR/>thompson<BR/>sarandon<BR/>mcdonnell<BR/>pfeifferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-27898969105254455032008-01-04T08:42:00.000-05:002008-01-04T08:42:00.000-05:00best actress 92for sure:THOMPSON -Howards EndPFEIF...best actress 92<BR/><BR/>for sure:<BR/>THOMPSON -Howards End<BR/>PFEIFFER -Batman Returns<BR/>SARANDON -Lorenzo's Oil<BR/><BR/>after that it's some mix of <BR/>McDONNEL & WOODARD -passion fish<BR/>FARROW -husbands and wives<BR/><BR/><BR/>and other people i'm forgetting<BR/><BR/>SORRY. can't do this without my lists.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-58986249081853356962008-01-04T06:44:00.000-05:002008-01-04T06:44:00.000-05:00we agree at last,yes woodard could be said to be s...we agree at last,yes woodard could be said to be supporting but on 2nd watch it really is about mcdonnell,ok best actress 92 just to really pick your brain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-80994435095351682312008-01-03T15:40:00.000-05:002008-01-03T15:40:00.000-05:00Helena was also good in The Heart of Me, a small B...Helena was also good in The Heart of Me, a small British film that keeps showing up on Sundance.gabrieloakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00460263240309976652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19473477363416154882008-01-03T15:16:00.000-05:002008-01-03T15:16:00.000-05:00without studying my 1992 lists of "films seen" i w...without studying my 1992 lists of "films seen" i would say that that's probably the same as my list ... with the possible exception of alfre woodard who, if I recall the film correctly, I'd probably say is a lead performance... but maybe not. I haven't seen it in a long time.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-92161280162635444182008-01-03T14:37:00.000-05:002008-01-03T14:37:00.000-05:00nat just a question who were your 92 supp actresse...nat just a question who were your 92 supp actresses,i like to know to compare with my own which i do every year once fb awards are done - mine were<BR/><BR/>helena bonham carter<BR/>judy davis<BR/>alfre woodard<BR/>miranda richardson<BR/>marisa tomeiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30514600737489749922008-01-03T12:17:00.000-05:002008-01-03T12:17:00.000-05:00omg, yeah. getting it right. wasn't that her first...omg, yeah. getting it right. wasn't that her first contemporary role? and it was a sign of more wildgirl roles to come. i guess i should've seen this coming sooner.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-86509197212432008842008-01-03T10:21:00.000-05:002008-01-03T10:21:00.000-05:00You people are crazy. She was as awesome in Planet...You people are crazy. She was as awesome in <I>Planet of the Apes</I> as the movie was awful. Her acting (and to a lesser extent Tim Roth's) was first class and enough to make me glad I'd paid to see that film. Not to mention she was actually believable as an intelligent ape rather than behave like a human with lots of makeup on.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I too love HBC and had been, until now, unaware she is an object of any kind of ongoing hate. Performances yet unmentioned here but worth mentioning are:<BR/><BR/><I>Theory of Flight</I>. If award bodies are supposed to be blindly in love with actors playing sick and disabled people, where were the accolades for this realistic and sympathetic (but never asking for pity) performance?<BR/><BR/>and <I>Twelfth Night</I>. As a major Shakespeare freak I can't wait for Helena to star in a screen version of a Bard's play again. Her Olivia, just like her Ophelia, is a yardstick I'll always keep in mind up when judging any past or future interpretations of these characters.<BR/><BR/>As for <I>Sweeney Todd</I>, I won't be watching it before February -- but seeing as I am a longtime fan of Bonham Carter, Burton and Depp, I do wish the film a dozen Oscars sight unseen. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-61847955181010172832008-01-03T09:25:00.000-05:002008-01-03T09:25:00.000-05:00Reading this post makes me hope that the powers th...Reading this post makes me hope that the powers that be are preparing a 20th Anniversary DVD of <B>Getting It Right</B>.Peter Nellhaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161286159856159772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-43849262844636739022008-01-03T08:44:00.000-05:002008-01-03T08:44:00.000-05:00She has become supremely annoying, but I try very ...She has become supremely annoying, but I try very hard to rememeber that I loved her in projects like that MERLIN miniseries from 1998. Of course, she always turns around and ruins it for me by starring in crap like PLANET OF THE APES or distracting me in good films like the recent HARRY POTTER film. <BR/><BR/>I think there's a great actress in there. However, she gets too caught up in her weirdo mannerisms. She needs to take on a couple of normal, down-to-earth roles for a while.<BR/><BR/>www.therecshow.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-86975510616868229392008-01-03T08:06:00.000-05:002008-01-03T08:06:00.000-05:00Oh, I forgot - didn't Hamlet (the ridiculous versi...Oh, I forgot - didn't Hamlet (the ridiculous version where Glenn Close played Mel Gibson's mother - and Gibson was humping his own mother on her bed *shudders*) come before Fight Club? That's another in your list, Nat - she starts out the pretty period Helena and ends mad and bedraggled, with straw and bones in her hair, feeling up a soldier. That was sort of the prototype for the rest of her career to date right there.<BR/><BR/>RedSatinDollAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-78960425281786412552008-01-03T08:03:00.000-05:002008-01-03T08:03:00.000-05:00Her perf in Wings of a Dove was certainly award wo...Her perf in Wings of a Dove was certainly award worthy - the darker side of the "period piece film" - but I've been hoping she'll get away from Burton too (Planet of the Apes? Hello? And sorry, she's wasted in Big Fish - I was yelling at McGregor's character, "Kiss her, you dip!") In fact, she's been pretty much wasted this entire past decade (thanks for the Conversations recommendation, middento), and she is one of our best screen actresses, no? Even in early period work, such as Where Angels Fear to Tread, where she's onscreen with Judy Davis and Helen Mirren, she gives the most subtle performance of the three by far.<BR/><BR/>That said - your post about the decay of her lovliness onscreen actually reminds me a lot of Depp himself, Nat. He is also an actor who loves to play against his own beauty - witness Pirates, or most especially "The Libertine" (Samantha Mathis gives an amazing turn in that film, btw) in which he starts out the prettiest face onscreen and ends up blind, crippled, his disease-eaten face smeared with make-up and a false nose that can't hide the effects of syphillis...it's a very similar effect, "et's play off my beauty because beauty for it's own sake is tiresome".<BR/><BR/>But back to Helena - thanks for the love, because there hasn't been enough of it lately - just like she hasn't been onscreen enough lately. She needn't divorce Burton, btw, to work with other directors, but I hope its not a case of directors having their heads up their butts and not sending her scripts!<BR/><BR/>RedSatinDollAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77358202208801464662008-01-03T07:57:00.000-05:002008-01-03T07:57:00.000-05:00mr ripley, i think you'll find many HBC for the Os...mr ripley, i think you'll find many HBC for the Oscar in 97 fans here. I know several people reading have expressed as much... and she was my choice as well.<BR/><BR/>i also agree that she should have been nominated in 92. that was a good year as supp actress nominees go but she still should've booted someoneNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-66639479834380326982008-01-03T07:49:00.000-05:002008-01-03T07:49:00.000-05:00ok this may be sacreligeous ( did i spell it right...ok this may be sacreligeous ( did i spell it right) but i think helena deserved the oscar in 97 and not as most say judi dench certainly not helen hunt and she deserved 92's supp actress nod not vanessa redgrave although a judy davis win would have been my choice,any1 agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-31507087336374494142008-01-03T03:28:00.000-05:002008-01-03T03:28:00.000-05:00Oh my gawd, 17 Year Old Blogger, you're right!I ca...Oh my gawd, 17 Year Old Blogger, you're right!<BR/><BR/>I can just see it -- Christian Bale as Batman, Heath Ledger as the Joker, Aaron Eckhart as Two-Face, and <I>Helena Bonham-Carter as Catwoman</I>. Someone get on this now.<BR/><BR/>(Although I don't mind the rumours that Maggie Gyllenhaal will metamorphose into Catwoman, either!)Colin Lowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417142602329843344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-60451360208324415152008-01-03T02:09:00.000-05:002008-01-03T02:09:00.000-05:00I saw Sweeney Todd and quickly fell in love with H...I saw Sweeney Todd and quickly fell in love with Helena. I watched Harry Potter 5 again and noticed in just her 6 minutes in the film she was perfect. Looking at the pictures you put up, I noticed that she would be the ultimate Catwoman.Michael B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06587665362502209914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-80514700845601446672008-01-03T00:43:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:43:00.000-05:00I'm so glad you wrote this, Nathaniel. Helena need...I'm so glad you wrote this, Nathaniel. Helena needed a respite from the hate parade.Joe Reidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06825174217179302019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-64744748536307312562008-01-03T00:39:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:39:00.000-05:00HBC was servicable in "Sweeney Todd", and I say th...HBC was servicable in "Sweeney Todd", and I say that being extremely skeptical of what she and Depp would pull off with the so difficult material. I don't think she's nomination worthy though, and I'm wavering on Depp now too. What's going to hurt them so much is the comparisions to the other contenders in their respective fields.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-57675059236314012892008-01-03T00:22:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:22:00.000-05:00I really think it's time to divorce. This marriage...<I>I really think it's time to divorce. This marriage isn't doing her any good. Her career just... disappeared.</I><BR/><BR/>Wow. I know you mean well, but that just sounds awful. God forbid that people have romantic relationships for reasons <I>other</I> than their careers!<BR/><BR/>Nat, I actually experienced the reverse apropos of Helena -- I first saw her in <I>Fight Club</I> and fell head-over-heels in love with her, after which her goth image cemented with <I>Big Fish</I> and subsequent films. I was surprised to learn that she used to be a period film actress (the dark rings below her eyes are a mainstay now, aren't they?).Colin Lowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417142602329843344noreply@blogger.com