tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post3367506635002452506..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Streep to Win 3rd Oscar ... in Feb 2009NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19288604673413348732007-10-25T15:56:00.000-04:002007-10-25T15:56:00.000-04:00I agree totall with Adam K and Nat abbout the dive...I agree totall with Adam K and Nat abbout the diversity of roles Streep takes and is always different... as far as comparing her to Kate Hepburn, there is none ... Kate was a one note actress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-25132600663600361872007-09-10T17:39:00.000-04:002007-09-10T17:39:00.000-04:00I totally disaree with JJ .. and I think NAthaniel...I totally disaree with JJ .. and I think NAthaniel mad my point as well. Having seen all the hepburn pictures through the years... she basically had a one note acting device... in later years her eyes would well-up in every movie.<BR/><BR/> I don't see how Streep can be said to be too strong a person to get lost in her roles. <BR/><BR/> I can't think of another actress ever who has had such a diversity of roles to the point you forget it is Streep "acting"..<BR/><BR/> Critics in the past have said she is mechanical in her roles... they are crazy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-13839737480030419002007-02-22T11:15:00.000-05:002007-02-22T11:15:00.000-05:00(I liked Proof the movie, too. And I usually cring...(I liked Proof the movie, too. And I usually cringe when I'm forcefed Gwyneth and Hope Davis.)<BR/><BR/>As for the Streep-Hepburn thread: Lemme just say that I can always see Streep's actorly machinery working (except maybe in Sophie's Choice). It's great machinery, but it's always visible to some degree. That's why I think it's practical to compare her to Hepburn -- not in terms of their filmographies or methods, but because you can always see them working. Every time I see Jones, I don't see Jones, you know? I can't wait to (not) see her in Doubt for a third time when the tour rolls through Washington in March.J.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07815005929352267468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-21761291607852378282007-02-21T23:33:00.000-05:002007-02-21T23:33:00.000-05:00Oooooh, that's interesting, Damian. I'll have to ...Oooooh, that's interesting, Damian. I'll have to think about that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-62984591501039079962007-02-21T20:07:00.000-05:002007-02-21T20:07:00.000-05:00Nathaniel:I did like Proof. Very much. I will conf...Nathaniel:<BR/><BR/>I did like <I>Proof.</I> Very much. I will confess that, despite being a lover of theatre, I have never actually seen a production of the play, but I can't help but wonder if that makes me <I>less</I> objective or <I>more</I> objective. <BR/><BR/>Granted, I didn't think it was perhaps a "great" movie, but I have long been of the opinion that a truly great work of art created in one medium will never be a truly great work of art in another medium. If <I>Proof</I> really is a great play (as many seem to claim) then there's no way it could've ever been a "great" film. It was, however, well-acted, well-directed, well-shot, well-edited and thought-provoking; almost everything one is looking for in a good movie.Damian Arlynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07937513879456460221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-58513049177047319562007-02-21T10:51:00.000-05:002007-02-21T10:51:00.000-05:00Hey JJ speak for yourself ;) --i don't actually ad...Hey JJ speak for yourself ;) --i don't actually adore Katherine Hepburn. It's perhaps my most major contrarian feeling.<BR/><BR/>I think comparing them is bizarre. Katharine Hepburn is very much of the Tom Cruise / Cary Grant / Julia Roberts school of pure star: always themselves with just a hint of variation for the character in question.<BR/><BR/>Streep is most definitely of the school or pure actor. She just also happens to be a movie star. I mean where is the thruline for Miranda Priestley, Isak Dinesen, Yolanda Johnson, Susan Orlean and Francesca Johnson (?) to name just a handful.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-85546539721915328642007-02-21T10:10:00.000-05:002007-02-21T10:10:00.000-05:00I saw Doubt with Eileen Atkins and she was amazing...I saw <I>Doubt</I> with Eileen Atkins and she was amazing. I suspect Cherry Jones' performance was very different but equally great.Alannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07379022159566734705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-42559421486030733272007-02-21T10:08:00.000-05:002007-02-21T10:08:00.000-05:00Adam K: Agree to disagree. Matter of opinion. I ad...Adam K: Agree to disagree. Matter of opinion. I adore Hepburn and Streep, as we all do, but I'd put Jones in a role like Sr. Aloysius before either of them. Doubt requires a character, not a performance.J.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07815005929352267468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-2023459100436132542007-02-21T05:10:00.000-05:002007-02-21T05:10:00.000-05:00I enjoyed both Proof and The History Boys - though...I enjoyed both Proof and The History Boys - thought they were both succesful adaptations but for widely different reasons.<BR/><BR/>Gwyneth Paltrow played her Proof character on stage as well - at the prolific Donmar Warehouse in London. it wasn't really Mary Louise Parker's to own. John Madden (who directed the film) also directed this version of the play. It got rave reviews for both of them - Paltrow won the Laurence Olivier (London version of TONY).<BR/><BR/>She should've been up for the Oscar that year instead of Judi Dench.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-10829555760907080812007-02-21T03:54:00.000-05:002007-02-21T03:54:00.000-05:00And also, I must ask...Since when is Streep's acti...And also, I must ask...<BR/><BR/>Since when is Streep's acting...<BR/><BR/>A) not chameleonic?<BR/><BR/>B) anything at all like Katherine Hepburn's?<BR/><BR/>I disagree strongly on both counts. Streep puts her own personality into her roles, yes, but only in the best way. She's the original "chameleon" and I certainly would call her nothing less than a "pure actor."adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-48561561329190440062007-02-21T03:50:00.000-05:002007-02-21T03:50:00.000-05:00Well, I saw the play with Eileen Eckhart in the le...Well, I saw the play with Eileen Eckhart in the lead, so I can't really comment on Jones. But I can say that it's a great play with or without Jones. I for one am excited that Meryl has yet another juicy role on her plate in this major career renaissance of hers. But seriously, HOW will she find the time to be in all these films?<BR/><BR/>And Streep has already proved she can step into an established stage role and make it sing on film. She was excellent in both <EM>Plenty</EM> and <EM>Angels in America</EM>. And it's very rarely that she doesn't hit a role out of the park. I'm pretty pumped for this.<BR/><BR/>Is it definitely being directed by John Patrick Shanley, though? Does he direct? I'd have more faith if it were written be him and directed by, say, Mike Nichols.adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-69144488649235798032007-02-21T03:13:00.000-05:002007-02-21T03:13:00.000-05:00huh, interestingly i was thinking proof too.but......huh, interestingly i was thinking proof too.<BR/><BR/>but...you're right adam about streep being different than paltrow.<BR/><BR/>i look forward to this post being referenced again in 2009.<BR/><BR/>--RC of strangeculture.blogspot.comRChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11340006144797496514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-81987712596959853112007-02-21T02:56:00.000-05:002007-02-21T02:56:00.000-05:00This all means absolutely nothing to me! yay!This all means absolutely nothing to me! yay!Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-23626193430906370982007-02-21T02:25:00.000-05:002007-02-21T02:25:00.000-05:00This is great news indeed. Though I did enjoy Pro...This is great news indeed. Though I did enjoy <I>Proof</I> (the film)!<BR/><BR/>RobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-56216013184206439562007-02-21T00:47:00.000-05:002007-02-21T00:47:00.000-05:00Technically speaking, it *is* a downgrade. Meryl i...Technically speaking, it *is* a downgrade. Meryl is a movie star a la Hepburn -- great at playing any role, but you almost always can tell it's her (this is not a bad thing necessarily). Jones is a pure actor. She's a chameleon. Seeing her in Doubt was one of the great theatrical experiences of my life, and if they must make a movie of it -- I wish they'd just leave it alone -- then they should've tapped Jones. I'm concerned about Streep's personality overtaking Sr. Aloysius. With Jones, you'd be guaranteed this wholly fascinating person. With Streep, you'll get a character with an exclamation point.J.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07815005929352267468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-25746604691897832502007-02-21T00:10:00.000-05:002007-02-21T00:10:00.000-05:00Well Meryl is also a great stage actor also, so th...Well Meryl is also a great stage actor also, so this isn't exactly a downgrade at would it more of an even split?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-54207917277231507072007-02-20T23:31:00.000-05:002007-02-20T23:31:00.000-05:00I agree that Jones was awesome in the role. But it...I agree that Jones was awesome in the role. But it's not like a step down to hire Meryl Freaking Streep. I mean Mary Louise Parker (great stage actor) to Gwyneth (good film actor) is a problem yes... but Meryl Streep is not a downgrade --they just went from great stage actor to great screen actor.<BR/><BR/>but yeah, it would be cool to see Cherry Jones have a large juicy role in a movie and this one seems like a logical move.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-331957050141639032007-02-20T23:26:00.000-05:002007-02-20T23:26:00.000-05:00I'm with wickedscorp - I'd much rather see this wi...I'm with wickedscorp - I'd much rather see this with Jones in the lead, despite my love for Streep. Same thing with <I>Proof</I> - thought Paltrow was solid, but there wasn't a moment when I wasn't thinking "How would have Mary-Louise Parker played this?"Yaseen Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908587347677660287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-92203355191121450932007-02-20T23:04:00.000-05:002007-02-20T23:04:00.000-05:00btw, Streep is absolutely gorgeous in this picture...btw, Streep is absolutely gorgeous in this picture.adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-55925823496253409912007-02-20T22:58:00.000-05:002007-02-20T22:58:00.000-05:00Alfre Woodard would also be excellent in the role ...Alfre Woodard would also be excellent in the role of the mother. <BR/><BR/>But maybe they'll keep Adriene Lennox?adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77255103491144607422007-02-20T22:47:00.000-05:002007-02-20T22:47:00.000-05:00Love Meryl, but when I saw this report yesterday m...Love Meryl, but when I saw this report yesterday my heart sank. Cherry plays this part pitch perfect, austere with moments of wicked wit; listening to her tear into Frosty the Snowman got me every time. They could have found names for every other part, though I was very fond of Adriane Lenox as Mrs. Muller, and given this to Cherry, she doesn't simply deserve it, she owns it.WickedScorphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01124962477489100493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-60054807749675015082007-02-20T22:31:00.000-05:002007-02-20T22:31:00.000-05:00To Nick --don't EVEN put that thought in my head: ...To Nick --don't EVEN put that thought in my head: Bassett & Streep together in Oscary parts. Don't even.<BR/><BR/>To Damian --you like Proof?<BR/><BR/>To Jason --the difference is that Streep is always great (with only one recent exception) whereas Blanchett is hit and miss.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-47175586445236927622007-02-20T22:17:00.000-05:002007-02-20T22:17:00.000-05:00Nathaniel, shouldn't you be picking bones with Str...Nathaniel, shouldn't you be picking bones with Streep the same way you do with Blanchett? She hogs all the roles for her age group as well.<BR/><BR/>-JasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-11188544493235597492007-02-20T22:14:00.000-05:002007-02-20T22:14:00.000-05:00I liked "Proof"--the film--but I didn't see the pl...I liked "Proof"--the film--but I didn't see the play, so I guess I would think differently had I (seen the play).<BR/><BR/>But, Paltrow was good (I thought it was her a career best and I don't care all that much for the rest of what she had done) and she was on the short list for a nomination. Afterall, Theron and Knightley's noms could have just as easily gone to Paltrow and Ziyha. <BR/><BR/>It sounds like Streep will at the very least get nominated.Cinesnatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00244752542602944093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4723347382084609872007-02-20T21:56:00.000-05:002007-02-20T21:56:00.000-05:00Oh Proof. That was a mess.Oh <I>Proof.</I> That was a mess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com