tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post3636468554762050174..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: 20:07 (Kamikaze Intervention Edition)NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-14626203483160085482007-11-04T07:04:00.000-05:002007-11-04T07:04:00.000-05:00Well Lawrence was recreating that whole myth of th...Well Lawrence was recreating that whole myth of the land idea with all the zooms and the sounds. The idea that the Australian landscape is full of mystery and is, in part, responsible for some of the terrible stuff that happens. Loved the juxtaposition of shots where one second we're focusing on beautiful scenery and then on manmade telephone lines.<BR/><BR/>I didn't think the end was terrible so it was easier for me to forgive it's slight (in my eyes) misstep.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-91352025239701068592007-11-04T05:28:00.000-05:002007-11-04T05:28:00.000-05:00I don't begrudge JINDABYNE filming on roads I'm fa...I don't begrudge JINDABYNE filming on roads I'm familiar with... believe me, that was one minor disconcerting element. (And let me emphasize the word 'minor'.)<BR/><BR/>"I agree to a point that the funeral sequence is a bit... silly. But I found that the film had built up so much good will with me that I forgave it. Besides, that song (sung by Ursula Yovich) is beautiful. I really liked the music in the film though in general (I have the soundtrack). "<BR/><BR/>I find I can forgive a film many things, but a bad ending just leaves such a sour taste in the mouth. JINDABYNE had been losing me in the last twenty-thirty minutes (boy, when the subtext comes to the surface, it sweeps everything away in its path!). But a lousy ending always makes me wonder whether the film-makers got anything right... <BR/><BR/>The best comparison would be with CACHE - imagine if that film ended with a chase scene where Auteil discovers the person spying on him (in this version, we'll say it's the son, who is a member of an Algerian terrorist organisation), pursues him across Paris, dispatches him in brutal physical conflict in defence of his family, and has a happy ending.<BR/><BR/>"Nick mentioned the creepy zooms and when you mix those with the loud soundtrack it just added a sense of forboding that I really liked"<BR/><BR/>Yeah, well a subtle sense of forboding it ain't! ;) (And maybe 'forboding' is the wrong feel for this story, when apathy is the issue, even in the expanded narrative.MichaelMclhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641747114551386727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-47778540724175061642007-11-04T03:25:00.000-05:002007-11-04T03:25:00.000-05:00aaah! "TBA" just won't do.aaah! "TBA" just <B>won't</B> do.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-16589498028738819152007-11-04T03:23:00.000-05:002007-11-04T03:23:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30366005805534248182007-11-03T23:18:00.000-04:002007-11-03T23:18:00.000-04:00I just watched this so I'm still processing ...but...I just watched this so I'm still processing ...but Nick, I love what you wrote about the 20:07 vs 70:02 image. I wouldn't have been able to articulate it the way you did but from your savvy eye that's a mirror nearly as interesting as <A HREF="http://filmexperience.blogspot.com/2007/08/2007-7002-mirrored-married.html" REL="nofollow">the double set</A> from <I>A History of Violence</I>NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-44895693148116926632007-11-03T21:06:00.000-04:002007-11-03T21:06:00.000-04:00You can hardly penalise a film for having scenes o...You can hardly penalise a film for having scenes on a road (!) that you have driven on before.<BR/><BR/>I agree to a point that the funeral sequence is a bit... silly. But I found that the film had built up so much good will with me that I forgave it. Besides, that song (sung by Ursula Yovich) is beautiful. I really liked the music in the film though in general (I have the soundtrack). <BR/><BR/>Nick mentioned the creepy zooms and when you mix those with the loud soundtrack it just added a sense of forboding that I really liked.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30776630742350060832007-11-03T12:49:00.000-04:002007-11-03T12:49:00.000-04:00Awesome. If I go by Irish release date, that means...Awesome. If I go by Irish release date, that means I also get to include INLAND EMPIRE, which we only got in February. Oh yes, I finally saw it.Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258493877737555910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-23085911726399884042007-11-03T12:24:00.000-04:002007-11-03T12:24:00.000-04:00Great post. I loved the movie for all the reasons ...Great post. I loved the movie for all the reasons you list, Nick, and that last shot is one of them, but I have to agree with Goran about the dénouement -- the big apology scene. It seemed an unnecessarily crude way of resolving a whole lot of issues, and I thought the movie was so much smarter when it was backing away from that. I'm big on endings, as you know, and I think that sequence is going to cost it inclusion in my top ten -- a damaging clunker in an otherwise smashing and subtle piece of work.tim rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893294970751318226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77937878610539914972007-11-03T11:08:00.000-04:002007-11-03T11:08:00.000-04:00I saw this in August last year... and haven't seen...I saw this in August last year... and haven't seen it since. My memory of it was:<BR/><BR/>- (i) strong acting, particularly from Linney and Byrne;<BR/><BR/>- (ii) a really great short story got saddled with an epic cast of character issues that just broke its back;<BR/><BR/>- (iii) I would have appreciated the racial subtext a bit more if it hadn't been so 'on the nose'... <BR/><BR/>- (iv) the indulgent ending scene, with a character singing a song, caps off one of the worst emotional resolution scenes I've seen in an otherwise strong film with... something that just managed to be worse! Earlier in that scene, I couldn't repress a chuckle as the whole group of families walked into the funeral scene at the end... would have been better if Linney had been there on her own. The sight of them all appearing is a bit much.<BR/><BR/>- (v) I like the actual ending that follows, as I see many here do. The opening scene is strong as well.<BR/><BR/>- (vi) I find it a little hard to buy into some of the tenser sequences, when they take place on roads I'm quite familiar with. I used to go to Jindabyne once a year when I was child.<BR/><BR/>- (vii) the whole 'demon seed' girl thing was silly... particularly in the scene at the lake where the boy starts struggling (I've swum there too!);<BR/><BR/>- (viii) the music... as is common for the films of my countrymen... almost completely and utterly sucked. We must be the only country in the world whose film-makers, blessed with an array of composers not getting concert hall commissions and available for film work, invariably make the choice to blend music by sound designers (those humming pulses) with instrumental music by pop artists. It sometimes works (The Proposition), but frequently, as in the case of Jindabyne, doesn't match the best international work. (Those vocals in Jindabyne... youch, my ears still hurt.)<BR/><BR/>- The Jindabyne-ambivalent Winterbottom-loving AustraliaMichaelMclhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641747114551386727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26417743978781324142007-11-03T10:44:00.000-04:002007-11-03T10:44:00.000-04:00Catherine you should go by release dates as the Ac...<B>Catherine</B> you should go by release dates as the Academy does. Yes, Jindabyne started its world tour in 2006 but if you live in the states it's a 2007 movie all the wayNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-82203889876322171122007-11-03T08:40:00.000-04:002007-11-03T08:40:00.000-04:00will any actress ever deliver in 5 minutes what be...will any actress ever deliver in 5 minutes what beatrice straight did in network i am always waiting for someone who does that with 10 mins or less screen time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-11124324979879549152007-11-03T03:13:00.000-04:002007-11-03T03:13:00.000-04:00nathaniel, what did you think of ten canoesnathaniel, what did you think of ten canoesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-58316621856931907802007-11-03T03:03:00.000-04:002007-11-03T03:03:00.000-04:00*minor spoiler*It was a solid film, yes... up unti...*minor spoiler*<BR/><BR/>It was a solid film, yes... up until that ending!! Not the stuff with the bee - the reconciliation stuff with that pop-idol performance. It was so crudely tacked-on, it contradicted the entire film.<BR/><BR/>And just the notion that someone turned a Raymond Carver story - the Carver who spent his life starkly pointing out the impossibility of absolute reconciliation - into an ultimately schmaltzy story of absolute reconciliation...<BR/><BR/>That said, Laura Linney was/is sensational and the first four-fifths of Jindabyne were infinitely more compelling and intelligently crafted than Ten Canoes, which bored me shitless.Y Kant Goran Ritehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03058411467996289416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-24459127267560562752007-11-02T22:46:00.000-04:002007-11-02T22:46:00.000-04:00the two*the two*Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19785979407061629722007-11-02T22:45:00.000-04:002007-11-02T22:45:00.000-04:00Dear Nick,I thank you from the bottom of my movie-...Dear Nick,<BR/><BR/>I thank you from the bottom of my movie-obsessed heart. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Love, Glenn.<BR/><BR/>--<BR/><BR/>I really agree with everything you said Nick. Not much I can add. My favourite performace was Deborra-Lee Furness though. Just phenomenal.<BR/><BR/>Nat, two two best Aussie films in a long time and you get to watch them - perhaps - back to back? Lucky you! I hope you take these feverish FYCs into consideration.<BR/><BR/>As to the ending, I agree with Ja. It was like some comic karma. This ghastly act (who knows how many others) and as he lays in wait for his next victim... swat. Poetic justice.<BR/><BR/>It's great to see people loving a movie I've been championing since halfway through last year. When I saw it I knew it was going to be my #1. I could just tell. And, as y'all know, I've been harping on about it ever since.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-53648466827321697302007-11-02T19:44:00.000-04:002007-11-02T19:44:00.000-04:00Yes! Yes! Yes! Wonderful post. See, I had seen Jin...Yes! Yes! Yes! Wonderful post. See, I had seen Jindabyne earlier this year and decided it was the best thing I'd seen in the cinemas for ages but thought I wouldn't be able to include it on an End Of Year list 'cause it's officially 2006. But now I think, screw it.<BR/><BR/>I loved this film. I went to see it with my mam and we were literally speechless all the way home. Laura Linney delivered a standout performance and Gabriel Byrne made me cry (when he was saying the prayer to St. Bridget - hearing Irish spoken on screen is always a pleasure for me).Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258493877737555910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-12116787113010522842007-11-02T18:36:00.000-04:002007-11-02T18:36:00.000-04:00You see, that's why I sorta hated Caché (well, tha...You see, that's why I sorta hated <I>Caché</I> (well, that and the fact that nothing happened). I just can't appreciate storylines almost without any sort of justice whatsoever, and with the added "bonus" of having both those films fade into nothingness quickly and confusingly (although <I>Caché</I> never really came out of it), I just sit there dumbstruck, saying "... What?" [shrugs]J.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17126912928153855523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-51000346425676194052007-11-02T17:36:00.000-04:002007-11-02T17:36:00.000-04:00Cool [pst/Cool [pst/Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09809699267788752653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-8986281486568270642007-11-02T16:52:00.000-04:002007-11-02T16:52:00.000-04:00Loved the ending. My favorite ending of a movie th...Loved the ending. My favorite ending of a movie this year I think. I read it as, we've been expecting some sort of pay-off to the whole serial killer storyline, the way he keeps buzzing in and out of the story throughout the whole film, but the "swat" was the pay-off, it <B>was</B> the "punishment" he receives. Stung by a bee. The whole sense of who deserves what was upended.Jason Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18254334131909339157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-54484827958356321852007-11-02T16:14:00.000-04:002007-11-02T16:14:00.000-04:00I felt a lot of mixed feelings towards this. But t...I felt a lot of mixed feelings towards this. But the performances were damn great, I'll say that.<BR/><BR/>Was I the only completely confused by the ending?J.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17126912928153855523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-87014525804292779402007-11-02T15:10:00.000-04:002007-11-02T15:10:00.000-04:00Now this is what I call an excellent and thorough ...Now this is what I call an excellent and thorough review! <BR/><BR/>I'd say KCamel's enthusiasm for this movie is catching, I caught it in the theater just over a month ago, and went exclusively based on his vociferous recommendation (both here and in other places). And boy was I glad I did!<BR/><BR/>Good, insightful story. Beautiful scenery. And is always lovely to see such good actors as Gabriel Byrne and Laura Linney in roles such as these! And that ending... scary!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-57858835467786540182007-11-02T15:06:00.000-04:002007-11-02T15:06:00.000-04:00This was great, too. It's currently hanging aroun...This was great, too. It's currently hanging around 5 or 6 on my list right now, and I can't see anything pushing it out of the Top 10 by year's end.<BR/><BR/>Laura Linney was fantastic, and is pretty safe as my favorite turn by lead actress this year. I haven't seen The Savages yet, but if she matches herself there, I'm going to become a cheerleader for her Best Actress Oscar in a major way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-48477566034813655042007-11-02T13:17:00.000-04:002007-11-02T13:17:00.000-04:00you will be happy to know that this film coinciden...you will be happy to know that this film coincidentally arrived in my mailbox yesterday. And <I>Ten Canoes </I> arrived the week before. <BR/><BR/>It's all about <A HREF="http://stalepopcornau.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Glenn</A> movies this next week apparentlyNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.com