tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post5280228624400445885..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: New York Film Critics CircleNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-80729658370214224342007-12-11T21:09:00.000-05:002007-12-11T21:09:00.000-05:00In regards to a biopic performance, I'm not gettin...In regards to a biopic performance, I'm not getting to the issue of it being nominated or winning awards or not. But when I judge one, I judge it exactly the same way as I judge any other performance. It's still up to the actor to do his or her job and portray a character and convey those emotions. Whether the character is real or not is irrelevant to me.Sam Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456254953886041016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77488289237060086712007-12-11T14:34:00.000-05:002007-12-11T14:34:00.000-05:00SWank???? I just think THe Black Dahlia and get ...SWank???? I just think THe Black Dahlia and get sick to my stomach.... I don't think she will be in the running for Oscars!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-31432693008287221082007-12-11T10:58:00.000-05:002007-12-11T10:58:00.000-05:00amir --you make a good point. The Best Actress com...amir --you make a good point. The Best Actress competition will be nonexistent once Swank reemerges... i'm sure her PS I love you performance will be like another ANNIE HALL or something -she's <I>that</I> good.<BR/><BR/>bwaahahaha<BR/><BR/>ok. i need a new punching bag. who is it gonna be? it's not going to be fun to hate on Swank when everyone else is doing it (which i suspect they will if the trailers are any indication)NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-85450041737183563532007-12-11T09:33:00.000-05:002007-12-11T09:33:00.000-05:00No, I don't think Adams would make Nathaniel's FB ...No, I don't think Adams would make Nathaniel's FB final 5. More likely Wei and Knightley...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-38052250816870148292007-12-11T08:30:00.000-05:002007-12-11T08:30:00.000-05:00I think Nathaniel's choices for Best Actress will ...I think Nathaniel's choices for Best Actress will be :<BR/>Christie - away from her<BR/>Do-yeon Jeong - secret sunshine<BR/>La Kidman - margot at the wedding<BR/>Linney - the savages<BR/>adams - enchanted<BR/><BR/>finalists : <BR/>molly shannon - year of the dog<BR/>wei - lust, caution<BR/>angelina jolie - a mighty heart<BR/>christina ricci - black snake moan<BR/>halle berry - things we lost in the fireAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-36481583602543489622007-12-11T03:20:00.000-05:002007-12-11T03:20:00.000-05:00Well if Swank doesn't completely blow the competit...Well if Swank doesn't completely blow the competition away in a few weeks time when she reinvents the wheel with The Definitive Romantic Dramedy Performance, it's between (in alpha order) Berry-Christie-Foster-Jolie-Knightley-Linney (Savages)-Wei. Still can't decide who to nominate let alone win; to me, they all deserve a share of the pie for some reason or another.<BR/><BR/>Haven't yet seen Margot or Sweeney Todd so things may change...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-3098133353918223802007-12-11T00:29:00.000-05:002007-12-11T00:29:00.000-05:00Cate Blanchett is a fine, fine actress ... her win...Cate Blanchett is a fine, fine actress ... her win for Aviator, she was MIMICKING Kate Hepburn... she's doing the same with Dylan .... so why not Cotillard mimicking Piaf????<BR/><BR/><BR/> I don't get the argument of this point....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-1162746565529685162007-12-11T00:05:00.000-05:002007-12-11T00:05:00.000-05:00Arkaan, but Blanchett didn't exactly rack up the c...Arkaan, but Blanchett didn't exactly rack up the critics awards for her perf in <I>The Aviator</I> either. If I remember correctly it was all about Virginia Madsen with the critics that year.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-10283077054729885272007-12-10T22:39:00.000-05:002007-12-10T22:39:00.000-05:00Also, I loved Gwyneth in "Sylvia". I wasn't dissi...Also, I loved Gwyneth in "Sylvia". I wasn't dissing her. That wasn't the point I was attempting to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-17098455227489847522007-12-10T22:12:00.000-05:002007-12-10T22:12:00.000-05:00Yes "La Vie En Rose" was thinking outside of the b...Yes "La Vie En Rose" was thinking outside of the box in terms of how the film was structured.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-14027709219486916672007-12-10T21:36:00.000-05:002007-12-10T21:36:00.000-05:001. I find it interesting people are getting sick ...1. I find it interesting people are getting sick of biopics now, because the most interesting ones (to me) have been released only recently: Kinsey, The Aviator, The Queen, Control (Infamous, to a lesser extent).<BR/><BR/>2. I haven't read this entire thread, but I'd argue that yeah, you can mimic fictional characters. It's just less exact. What does Meryl Streep when she learns an accent? She mimics it. Maybe Amy Ryan had a specific boozing mother in mind. Sure, it requires imagination, but lets not dismiss performances of real people simply on the basis of mimicry. Oscar bait has become such a perjorative phrase that it's disappointing to see performances written off because they do contain some "bait" in them.<BR/><BR/>3. I think Blanchett's not winning for a few reasons. She's in a divisive film, she's the star of an epic backlash because she has the temerity to work a lot, she's just won recently for a superficially similar role (impersonating a 20th Century icon). I think she'll get nodded still (thanks to the amorphous nature of the category), but a win so soon? Doubtful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-64135191670099694722007-12-10T21:22:00.000-05:002007-12-10T21:22:00.000-05:00wait amir. who are the seven women for this tie? a...wait <B>amir</B>. who are the seven women for this tie? <BR/><BR/>and <B>alex</B> you are evil and must be destroyed <BR/><BR/>;)<BR/><BR/>to all the Cotillard lovers. I call truce: one of me own best friends (<A HREF="http://www.nicksflickpicks.com/blog" REL="nofollow">Nick</A>) also loves her so there ya go.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-89835288890863475742007-12-10T21:12:00.000-05:002007-12-10T21:12:00.000-05:00Staunton vs. Bening = Hilary Swank for "Million Do...Staunton vs. Bening = Hilary Swank for "Million Dollar Baby"<BR/>=<BR/>Christie vs. Cotillard = Hilary Swank for "P.S. I love you"<BR/>Easy, right ?<BR/><BR/>When you need her, she has a movie coming out in december<BR/>When it's oscar time, she's first in line<BR/>She knows how to knock it out of the park, for she grew up in a trailer park <BR/>She may have scars, but she's already won two OscarsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-86005338600511308312007-12-10T20:43:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:43:00.000-05:00Seconded about Film Bitch Awards - never been more...Seconded about Film Bitch Awards - never been more anticipated than this year, for it's been both a quality-laden and unpredictable one.<BR/><BR/>Also, can we just campaign for Best Actress to be a seven-way tie this year?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-60342869167901911122007-12-10T20:38:00.001-05:002007-12-10T20:38:00.001-05:00This is like the BEST thread I've ever read on her...This is like the BEST thread I've ever read on here! Amazing work guys!<BR/><BR/>Can I just say a few things in response to some of the great things posted on here:<BR/><BR/>1. La Vie en rose is not thinking outside of any box. It's firmly in the corner of a very generic brown cardboard/badly constructed one.<BR/><BR/>2. Can I join the "let's revel in Julie Christie's austerity" club? Please? I'm not really a 'join the club' kinda guy, but that is one club I would happily sign away for this season.<BR/><BR/>2.b. PS: I'm all about the oldies this year - Christie, Redgrave, Holbrook, Dee. Probably Langella when it gets a release over here in 2011 or thereabouts. Loving me some geriatricaction. Although I was backing Mirren and O'Toole last year, so maybe it's a long-term thing?...<BR/><BR/>3. Oh and someone explain to me Kelly Macdonald's appeal in No Country? The first few scenes she was in were badly acted. No question about that. Her delivery, body language, that shocking accent (I could still hear that Glaswegian shrill behind the long-drawn out, finish-the-damn-word <BR/>-before-I-slap-you attempt at Texan). I mean, come on, seriously? Then she disappears for the rest of the movie. Finally, she kind of redeems herself in that coda scene. Does not an Oscar nominee maketh. (Hopefully.)<BR/><BR/>4. Paltrow was aces in Sylvia. Don't diss my homegirl.<BR/><BR/>5. Also Nat, why did you have to drag my poor punchbag-of-the-decade Halle into this one? Although you seemed to have liked Things We Lost so all is immediately forgiven.<BR/><BR/>6. Not related at all but I've just come back from seeing it so what the hell: WHY IS NO-ONE TALKING ABOUT LUST, CAUTION?? It came out in Sept in the US, you guys should've all seen it by now. Is the mere thought of it now not making you shudder in delight??...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-70681561008111078512007-12-10T20:38:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:38:00.000-05:00ah Keeper! that's awesome. COMING SOON(drumroll)ah Keeper! that's awesome. <BR/><BR/>COMING SOON<BR/><BR/>(drumroll)NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-42927172247432213792007-12-10T20:37:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:37:00.000-05:00anon 7.57 (so many anonymous people!!) it's not so...anon 7.57 (so many anonymous people!!) it's not so much Julie Christie herself it's just that there are so many great performances that haven't been aided by the actor being able to copy a famous person yet it's that very performance that is garnering the majority of hype/awards. People like Christie, Linney, Page, Knightley, Adams, etc, all see to have gotten amazing reviews for their performances yet because people don't have a frame of reference to hold it up to they get relegated to the sidelines.<BR/><BR/>It's like how adapted screenplays always seem to be more "prestigious" than originals for whatever reason.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-57700617402710164002007-12-10T20:29:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:29:00.000-05:00All these critics awards are all well and good, al...All these critics awards are all well and good, all I want to see is Nat's FB awards.The Keeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181634999719219530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-21854020293285422802007-12-10T20:25:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:25:00.000-05:00I think it's already gotten uglier : ( That was m...I think it's already gotten uglier : ( That was more an issue of someone already having another oscar.<BR/><BR/>And I am an actual actor, to whoever brought that up. Albeit I don't have a career yet, but that is the idea eventually. And for what it's worth, I think this whole debate has gotten way overblown. I mean, acting is acting, people. Come on. "Mimicry" and "imagination" are two different skills that are both important in acting. They're both difficult. I think mimicry is mildly overrewarded, probably due to the "wow once in a lifetime perfect match!" factor of actor and role... and it's just an easier thing to quantify, I suppose. <BR/><BR/>But anyway yeah, chill. <BR/><BR/>I want Laura Linney to win...adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-3924125006350891402007-12-10T20:21:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:21:00.000-05:00Sorry typing fast. I meant not that I want them to...Sorry typing fast. I meant not that I want them to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-64181515277438114652007-12-10T20:20:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:20:00.000-05:00Nathaniel- I believe Ellen Page or Laura Linney wi...Nathaniel- I believe Ellen Page or Laura Linney will pull an upset over both parties. Not that I want her too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-13350212381341937102007-12-10T20:10:00.001-05:002007-12-10T20:10:00.001-05:00ooh boy. anyone else sensing this actress smackdow...ooh boy. anyone else sensing this actress smackdown is going to get as ugly as the Swank vs. Bening days?NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-10465972957037268112007-12-10T20:10:00.000-05:002007-12-10T20:10:00.000-05:00I agree with Tera a lot of films follow similar pa...I agree with Tera a lot of films follow similar patterns, not just biopics.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Oh I got a good one OmgCaseyAffleckisRobertFord. Oh wait and we know this because....<BR/><BR/>anon 7:57 or how about let's reward someone because of thier past work or because they're old and we should cherish our older actors ( someone actually said this about Julie Christie).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-78054226225535837712007-12-10T19:57:00.000-05:002007-12-10T19:57:00.000-05:00But how is that somehow better than the "let's rev...But how is that somehow better than the "let's revel in the austerity of Julie Christie" fanclub that you and Nate are leading the path with Kamikaze? Get the hell over yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-53335042042389148342007-12-10T19:49:00.000-05:002007-12-10T19:49:00.000-05:00Charlie, maybe it's just me, but a lot of genre fi...Charlie, maybe it's just me, but a lot of genre films follow the same pattern.<BR/><BR/>Horror Movies<BR/>Romantic Comedies-Am I the only one who hates these.lol.<BR/>Fantasy.<BR/><BR/>etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com