tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post5893683390493484310..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: BAFTA "Live" BloggingNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-86593772836770212162008-02-12T23:38:00.000-05:002008-02-12T23:38:00.000-05:00I am a Cotillard supporter, but I don't think I'm ...I am a Cotillard supporter, but I don't think I'm "downright insulting" to Christie. I do have to admit that I don't see the big deal about her performance. Honestly, I just think she's in the wrong category. If she were in the supporting category, I probably would be behind her more. But as a leading candidate, I don't know, I think her work was a little <I>too</I> subtle. Her line deliveries were terrific (that "Vietnam" line was magnificent), but seeing that she's not in almost half the film, I don't know. I also wish I could have seen more of who Fiona was before she deteriorated. I mean, that's probably Alzheimer's fault, but I personally thought the performance started to get a little one note. I think she does a great job, but the performance didn't scream Oscar to me. To me, it's kind of like rooting for Ruby Dee's performance. Great performance, but does she deserve an award for it? After seeing <I>La Vie en Rose</I>, I was totally floored by Cotillard's performance. Sure, the makeup department did a fantastic job at physically transforming her, but Cotillard was the factor that made the transformations so believable.<BR/><BR/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=X0pYzCpaZC8<BR/>See, being a real person in a movie isn't about imitation. Even Cotillard knows that!<BR/><BR/>~StevenStevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14710651889427937373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-81588467414046249522008-02-12T19:05:00.000-05:002008-02-12T19:05:00.000-05:00Cotillard's "physical transformation"? That's what...Cotillard's "physical transformation"? That's what the Make Up Oscar is for, not bloody Best Actress!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77465386178710838402008-02-12T15:52:00.000-05:002008-02-12T15:52:00.000-05:00I believe a year like 2002...Julianne Moore won al...I believe a year like 2002...<BR/><BR/>Julianne Moore won almost all the prizes for Far from heaven except last of them<BR/>Renee Zellweger won the Golden Globe and the SAG<BR/>Nicole Kidman won the Golden Globe and The BAFTA<BR/><BR/>Cotillard has more support... BAFTA, Golden Globe, LAFCA, Boston<BR/>I'm glad for her victory. I don't ike the biopics. Two years ago, I want to win Ledger over Hoffman or last year Dench or Winslet over Mirren, but I think Marion deserves the Oscar for her physical transformation and development of the caractherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4508179324045172282008-02-12T08:19:00.000-05:002008-02-12T08:19:00.000-05:00From what I have noticed this whole season the Cot...From what I have noticed this whole season the Cotillard supporters are downright insulting towards Julie Christie.<BR/><BR/>I am a Christie supporter while I also have Cotillard in my top 5, I felt with Cotillard was the performance was lots of broad strokes and not enough layers. It more lies in the script than anything else.<BR/><BR/>For me Christie showed the layers of a character that was wilting.I saw a woman who is becoming a new person even if it is the fact she is losing her. I felt more layers with Christie than I did with Cotillard.<BR/><BR/>I have a co-worker that says that what Julie Christie did in "Away From Her" he thought could have been done by Meryl Streep or Julianne Moore. I really have a hard time imagining anyone else as Fiona than Christie.<BR/><BR/>Oddly enough I don't think Cotillard's performance for me is really one-of-a-kind. Yes I know I am off and the Cotillard's supporters are going to lynch me now so sue me :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-43308286791444958882008-02-12T06:05:00.000-05:002008-02-12T06:05:00.000-05:00but Rob I think I've been clear about my problems ...but Rob I think I've been clear about my problems with the performance outside of what <I>type</I> of performance is. I wrote a long review and I've discussed it again in the Symposium.<BR/><BR/>but i do agree that it's not her fault that the trend exists and that the movie is so infuriating.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19023952901167109732008-02-12T02:31:00.000-05:002008-02-12T02:31:00.000-05:00Apologies. To clarify, I said: "I recognise that ...Apologies. To clarify, I said: "I recognise that I can't dissuade you from dismissing her performance as (a)... (b)... or (c)..." because I'm recognising that it's impossible to counter the argument against any one of them. The performance <B>is</B> given by a hot actress deglamming; it's in a biopic; and there's no hiding from the statistical trend.<BR/><BR/>But my biggest beef with the counters against Cotillard are because her detractors' chief concerns lie with the predictability of the deglam/biopic trend, or because the film accommodating the performance has been edited by a paper shredder. I don't think either are her fault. Is a judgement about her performance so very difficult to divorce from those things?<BR/><BR/>I recognise that each of us either feels or doesn't feel a performance. Linney I get; Christie I don't (to my mind Pinsent was the only award-worthy choice in that film). Therefore I'm certainly not criticising anyone for not feeling Cotillard's work.<BR/><BR/>But let someone dismiss her work on the grounds of problems with the actual performance, and I'll nod along sympathetically. The rest is just veiled sour grapes.<BR/><BR/>RobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-66409664797575319372008-02-11T21:04:00.000-05:002008-02-11T21:04:00.000-05:00Adjani, Deneuve, Liv Ullmann, Mastroianni, Depardi...Adjani, Deneuve, Liv Ullmann, Mastroianni, Depardieu all failed to win Oscars--and yet Benigni does win? And now possibly Cotillard?gabrieloakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00460263240309976652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-22274541560844083272008-02-11T20:45:00.000-05:002008-02-11T20:45:00.000-05:00Rob i ABSOLUTELY hear what you're saying. But the ...<B>Rob</B> i ABSOLUTELY hear what you're saying. But the reason I can't ever get beyond it is that someone says that same argument each year when there's an a) and the b) ... THIS TIME it's different. you know?<BR/><BR/>no offense.<BR/><BR/>now admittedly i'm a lot more prone to accept the argument that a performance is better than just its genre (i preach this all the time and i <I>have</I> loved a few biopic performances in their day) but i will never and can never accept an argument against <B>c</B> (voters falling for a & b)... I'd be shocked if anyone would even try to argue that... the pattern is unmistakeable. At least in recent years.<BR/><BR/>even in the rare respite from it (2004) there was no biopic running against the fictional woman who won.<BR/><BR/>i'm glad that the performance has moved so many people (i actually am --i'm always for people loving movies)... I just can't see (personally) how it's in remotely the same class as what Linney or Christie did.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-71949960383847380792008-02-11T19:54:00.000-05:002008-02-11T19:54:00.000-05:00You know what Swinton's outfit reminded me of? The...You know what Swinton's outfit reminded me of? The bug outfit Ricki Lake wears at the end of <I>Hairspray</I> '88. Or is it just me?Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-38992712824819770042008-02-11T19:52:00.000-05:002008-02-11T19:52:00.000-05:00likes of Sarandon, McDormand, Hunt, Paltrow, Swank...likes of Sarandon, McDormand, Hunt, Paltrow, Swank and Roberts then<BR/><BR/>ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch! Please don't put mcdormand ("is that your friend there in the chipper?") in the same sentence as hunt (should not have won), paltrow (should not have won), and roberts (OMG, should not have won).....why is it there are so many "should not have wons" lately????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-31316537522835919972008-02-11T17:52:00.000-05:002008-02-11T17:52:00.000-05:00Well, I love Marion's work, and yet I recognise th...Well, I love Marion's work, and yet I recognise that I can't dissuade you from dismissing her performance as (a) deglam and (b) a biopic, or that (c) the voters are suckers for falling for (a) and (b).<BR/><BR/>But as someone who seldom falls for (a) or (b), I'm just floating the idea out there that maybe MAYBE here's a performance that earns a temporary restraining order on some of the "pattern" cynicism I've been reading here.<BR/><BR/>Let's not forget that Marion is also (a) a foreign actress in (b) a foreign language film, and if someone had told me that constraints like those could be overcome and earn someone a Best Actress statuette ten years ago when we were applauding the likes of Sarandon, McDormand, Hunt, Paltrow, Swank and Roberts then... well, let's just say it would have given me hope for the future.<BR/><BR/>[end minor rant]<BR/><BR/>I still think Christie will win though. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here; there may be an air of a tide turning post-BAFTA, but most ballots will already be cast, and Christie has won all the other precursors that count. She's still our frontrunner.<BR/><BR/>RobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-16490393927007439552008-02-11T16:44:00.000-05:002008-02-11T16:44:00.000-05:00Jimmy,that's my gut feeling too. Depressing as all...Jimmy,<BR/>that's my gut feeling too. Depressing as all hell. I'm just longing for a new "story" as it were and Oscar loves two stories best of all "young pretty things looking not so pretty" and "famous person pretending to be famous person" and they can have both with Marion.<BR/><BR/>it's like little kids when they want the same bedtime story every night. they like to know what will happen. they like everything to turn out the sameNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30950974194759303782008-02-11T16:39:00.000-05:002008-02-11T16:39:00.000-05:00"Beatle Poster"? Lol... mister lennon is hilarious..."Beatle Poster"? Lol... mister lennon is hilarious.Slaytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03788927670985682471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-13826982822789760622008-02-11T15:51:00.000-05:002008-02-11T15:51:00.000-05:00I have a gut feeling that (sadly) Christie is not ...I have a gut feeling that (sadly) Christie is not going to win....Marion will be a surprise "oscar goes to" recipient. I had this feeling about "Crash" a few years back. There's always a surprise every year....I also don't think Ruby Dee will win - academy will feel the SAG will plenty suffice for her. Unless Ossie is up there, pulling some strings for her....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-5365209378821340822008-02-11T15:48:00.000-05:002008-02-11T15:48:00.000-05:00alright, let's forget the pretense - Tilda Swinton...alright, let's forget the pretense - Tilda Swinton is better on her worst day than any of the other actresses on their best. My brain knows that she won't win the oscar, but that won't stop the aforementioned fact from being true!Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03455618512863604588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-9112348415466113142008-02-11T15:47:00.000-05:002008-02-11T15:47:00.000-05:00FYI, Tilda's (fab!) speech is here.FYI, Tilda's (fab!) speech is <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1157178540411036997&q=tilda+swinton+bafta&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1" REL="nofollow">here</A>.Middentohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13829095129849712488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-18324853904448336232008-02-11T14:29:00.000-05:002008-02-11T14:29:00.000-05:00Isn't Jonathan Ross the one who did that aweful in...Isn't Jonathan Ross the one who did that aweful interview with la Kidman on his talk show a couple of years ago (and referred to her mother as "a bitch"?) they guy with the bad hair. What is he doing hosting a show like this?<BR/><BR/>Way to go, Tilda. You deserve it.<BR/><BR/>RedSatinDollAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-15264771286871423652008-02-11T13:53:00.000-05:002008-02-11T13:53:00.000-05:00How many times has the BAFTA, the BFCA, the SAG, a...How many times has the BAFTA, the BFCA, the SAG, and the Globe gone to different people in the same category? The only other time I can think of was 1998, with Best Supporting Actor: Duvall (SAG), Rush (BAFTA), Thornton (BFCA), and Harris (Globe). All four were nominated for the Oscar, and the trophy ultimately went to the fifth nominee, James Coburn. Anyone think Ronan's gotta shot at that?John Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778817752411507792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-51704686443303055262008-02-11T12:17:00.000-05:002008-02-11T12:17:00.000-05:00As a Brit, I'm sorta horrified that they've got ri...As a Brit, I'm sorta horrified that they've got rid of Fry (erudite, charming, funny as hell) and replaced him with Ross (the best we have at lighthearted conversational banter, but alas that's not what a BAFTA presenter needs to do).<BR/><BR/>I am, however, THRILLED that we've thrown Swinton and Cotillard into the realms of "possible". I'm unashamedly rooting for them both!<BR/><BR/>RobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-49929949492047748922008-02-11T12:15:00.000-05:002008-02-11T12:15:00.000-05:00i'm just happy that tilda and emily are mentioned ...i'm just happy that tilda and emily are mentioned in the same post. that's all.ryansumerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07445595071781189432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-38632636707195630122008-02-11T12:14:00.000-05:002008-02-11T12:14:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.ryansumerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07445595071781189432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77398624111568530862008-02-11T11:35:00.000-05:002008-02-11T11:35:00.000-05:00Have you ever seen the Jonathon Ross show? He's th...Have you ever seen the Jonathon Ross show? He's the top chat show host in the UK friday night, Brits love him, so he's probably picked to keep the interest of British audiences.<BR/><BR/>Regrading the jokes - british humour at its best. I laughed at most of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-63927594645165692692008-02-11T10:12:00.000-05:002008-02-11T10:12:00.000-05:00Well they've had ballots for a couple of weeks now...Well they've had ballots for a couple of weeks now, so i doubt that BAFTA speeches will make much difference. Aren't most of the ballots returned early? They're due by Feb 19th. <BR/><BR/>with my bad luck of my favorites not winning i can see Julianne Moore and Michelle Pfeiffer finally giving an Oscary performance within the biopic genre in a few years but everybody finally coming round to the fact that just cause it's mimicry doesn't make it "the best" of the year every time. and then they lose. the trend finally ending once somebody who really needs an Oscar is up for one. HA HANATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4230144454905949942008-02-11T10:01:00.000-05:002008-02-11T10:01:00.000-05:00Said it before and I'll say it again: Lars Von Tri...Said it before and I'll say it again: Lars Von Trier NEEDS to discover Samantha Morton.The Jaded Armchair Reviewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511211427198395696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-80063639186545893222008-02-11T09:48:00.000-05:002008-02-11T09:48:00.000-05:00I think Marion Cotillard did herself a world of go...I think Marion Cotillard did herself a world of good with that acceptance speech. It may win her the oscar.<BR/><BR/>She was babbling and incoherent and lost for words, but damned if she didn't seem genuinely moved and shocked, and cute with it. Oscar voters love that sort of genuine enthusiasm (it arguably won Roberto Begnini a highly undeserved Oscar).<BR/><BR/>I haven't even seen Cotillard's performance yet, but I found her so genuine and awkward (in a good way), that you can't help but feel happy for her. Since Oscar voters rarely just vote on performance, I can see Cottillard's display winning her a bunch of votes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com