tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post879499909677967545..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Yes, No, Maybe So: SomewhereNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-80457558647253907572010-06-17T10:07:47.115-04:002010-06-17T10:07:47.115-04:00I never got the vibe that Dakota Fanning was tryin...I never got the vibe that Dakota Fanning was trying too hard in her films. I think it boils down to many people just not being comfortable with a young and poised actress that doesn't act her age (like that has to be a bad thing when it's not). She seems to have a level head on her shoulders, and all of this Elle Fanning getting a nod before her doesn't change that. Good for Elle if "Somewhere" is a hit, but that doesn't diminish Dakota's great talent and future Oscar prospects.Samsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-29697819670874804292010-06-16T18:15:46.754-04:002010-06-16T18:15:46.754-04:00@Nathaniel: Well, we Arians, as a matter of fact, ...@Nathaniel: Well, we Arians, as a matter of fact, are difficult people! ;-)<br />And ... caught me... guilty... I was so rooting for Meryl's 3rd this year and heaven knows if I will ever see "Julie and Julia"!Dominiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-11994566519079745412010-06-16T17:37:48.849-04:002010-06-16T17:37:48.849-04:00DOMINIK -- wow so much to consider. interesting fa...DOMINIK -- wow so much to consider. interesting factoid about the "aries" youngsters. unfortunately it's the sign that i don't tend to get along with in real life. at least so far ;)<br /><br />as for your question about The Last Station. Prestige and career respect are really potent Oscar tools. The only way those nominations happened was because it was two legendary actors. Put a no name in either part and there'd be no nomination. Sometimes the name with the role is the most important factor. Younger actors have to really work a role that people respond to to get nominated. They don't have anything else to make people want to see them recognized. Everyone likes to see legendary people recognized even before they see the movie in question: witness how people always root for Meryl to win a 3rd befor her latest movie comes out.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-71668751594059858042010-06-16T17:09:00.147-04:002010-06-16T17:09:00.147-04:00Okay I won't rant too much about y I'm a t...Okay I won't rant too much about y I'm a total sucker for this Elle getting an Oscar nod/Dakota losing it scenario... it would be my perfect VH1 Ill-Ustrated episode ever... but that show has ended long ago I think, hasn't it. About SNL… no I’ll cut it short here…<br /><br />Apart from that, once I choose posting I guess I can’t help ranting:<br /><br />Re: the movie - on yes - I'm definitely gonna watch it, mostly because I wanna see what Elle Fanning can do. I have only consciously seen her in an episode of SVU and in Benjamin Button (what a disappointment and waste of time of a movie!). I'm always torn between liking and disliking Dakota, sometimes I think she's really an awesome actress, sometimes I think she tries too much. Something about Elle makes me view her as more natural, more normal, less uber-ambitious, less pretentious and less into herself than Dakota sometimes seems to be. So maybe she’s also more convincing as an actress, who knows. (And btw she’s a really cute and very pretty girl at only 12... – she does look older, but that doesn’t change that she’s still a kid)<br /><br />Re: the movie – on no – the trailer does look like what made me be totally disappointed about LiT and not find TVS more than definitely above average: slow pace and seemingly no plot. Hope it’s not like that. Also I guess I share the concerns that it might be too much about the decadent lives of people who will never get the meaning of words like “economy crisis”.<br /><br />Re: the movie – maybe so – if manipulative enough, any father-daughter-movie will drive me (close) to tears - and make me feel ashamed for being so easily manipulated in the same moment… and I still see a great chance it actually turns out to be good.<br /><br />Re: Stephen Dorff – I’ve heard that name before. Back in the 90s. But I can’t connect it to anything, really. Uhm… if Coppola hadn’t cast him in „Somewhere“, wouldn’t ppl probably assume he’s dead or something?<br /><br />Re: Oscar chances –<br />Dakota - @Michael W. – I’m really excited about the Runaways (I wonder if it will ever come out here in Germany, haven’t heard about it yet), but it was out in February in the US, right? So no one will remember it in Awards Season I think. Nod for Dakota – with the words of Brüno: Isch don’t think so!<br /><br />Stephen Dorff – Isch don’t think so!<br /><br />Elle – I totally saw it for her. Until I heard of the release date being December 22nd. Does that kill her chances? I’d say yes. But then again how come the nods for Last Station last year? I guess I’m still very far from understanding the Oscars… <br /><br />But I have one rather strange theory what will work for her and against Dakota when it comes to Oscar nominations that I want to present: What do the last four people in a row (one boy, three girls) who were nominated for an Oscar before being 18 and Elle (and on a side note, myself, too) have in common? The star sign Aries: Haley Joel Osment was born 10/4/88, Keisha Castle Hughes 24/3/90, Abby Breslin 14/4/96, Saoirse Ronan 12/4/94, and Elle Fanning 9/4/98. So maybe pre-mature Oscar luck is all in the stars ;-) and though I’m furthest away from ever seeing the Kodak Theatre from the inside (and almost as far away from being still in my teens) that fact sort of makes me proud of my star sign. J<br /><br />Talking about Oscar… Nathaniel you wrote you will soon update your Oscar predictions which I’m looking forward too, though I’m less excited than I was in April (that was still the buzz of the past season probably). AND I wanted to ask… what about this year's Best Actress Psychic Contest????Dominiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-68311231627702108662010-06-16T15:14:50.741-04:002010-06-16T15:14:50.741-04:00Blinking_Cursor@
I have said since Sundance that ...Blinking_Cursor@<br /><br />I have said since Sundance that Dakota Fanning will get nominated for The Runaways. I have to stick with that for as long as I can ;DMichael W.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-48984250369888183242010-06-16T14:11:17.795-04:002010-06-16T14:11:17.795-04:00@Agustin and Nathaniel, thanks for the explanation...@Agustin and Nathaniel, thanks for the explanation. I wasn't criticizing the posts per se inasmuch as I was wondering why/how such comments originated (seen the like floating about in other columns dealing with the Fanning girls, so I got curious and was wondering if Dakota had some secret hidden diva streak that has just recently emerged at puberty or something).<br /><br />BTW, Nathaniel, I think Drew Barrymore may eventually get Oscar nominated herself some day, too. You saw her in HBO's Grey Gardens, right? She was fabulous! She's got the acting chops (plus she's got the whole rags to riches to rags and back to riches personal story - AMPAS so do love a girl that picks herself by her bootstraps), so all she needs is the right role and director to get that golden nomination.<br /><br />@Michael W., Elle has Somewhere as the oscar bait coming out this year, but what does Dakota have in the way of projects coming out soon that'd be oscar baity? If anything, I think Saoirse Ronan may be a contender too. She's got the Way Back and Hanna coming out. Also, I'd put Ellen Page as the dark horse contender for Best Supporting Actress for Inception. Yeah, I know Nolan isn't known for being a Women's Director, but I think if Inception takes the turn that I believe it will, and if it performs well at the box office, then Page may be remembered at nomination time. Though admittedly she's got a hard road to walk with Inception coming out in the summer and not in the Autumn and Winter months. She may not be on anyone's Oscar radar now (well, except for mine) but then again back in the early summer months of 2007, how many of us had heard of her pre Juno? Once Juno was released, she soon became one of the front runners along with La Marion and Julie Christie. Just sayin' she may yet be in it too, is all...Blinking_Cursornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-45199653044341116802010-06-16T13:57:38.437-04:002010-06-16T13:57:38.437-04:00I'm a "yes" any time Sofia Coppola i...I'm a "yes" any time Sofia Coppola is involved - unless the film gets totally savaged by the critics (maybe even then).<br /><br />"Marie Antoinette" is my favorite of her films so far, so your championing it warms my heart.lylee2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10072174471565738658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-48007258344847412722010-06-16T13:39:29.548-04:002010-06-16T13:39:29.548-04:00@Blinking Cursor
I know they support each other, t...@Blinking Cursor<br />I know they support each other, that's why I made the joke, it would really be sad if they actually have a feud over the golden little man, I really don't expect them to..<br />just thought it'd be funny<br />don't take everything so seriously!<br />oh and nat, I just found out that Olvia and Joan Foantaine are sisters!! wow <br />I really have to catch up with the classicsAgustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16322367636443279027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-22291618306047601442010-06-16T12:39:22.755-04:002010-06-16T12:39:22.755-04:00I wish Dorff was my daddy...I wish Dorff was my daddy...Peggy Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-72952958334671986422010-06-16T11:26:30.905-04:002010-06-16T11:26:30.905-04:00Love the trailer! Can Stephen Dorff get an Oscar n...Love the trailer! Can Stephen Dorff get an Oscar nod for this? It'd be the comeback story of the year if so. Good for him! I need my baity films back. This summer's been utter shit so far. This'll have to tide me over until December. Sigh. <br /><br />It would be hilarious if Elle Fanning managed an Oscar nod befor Dakota does! I'd be mad catty at first too, no lie.Iannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-5417854560855218862010-06-16T09:22:57.071-04:002010-06-16T09:22:57.071-04:00Nat, I know this is off topic, but could you see J...Nat, I know this is off topic, but could you see Jonah Hex's score (by Mastodon) as a potential left field Oscar nomination?Volvagianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-36608339070834399502010-06-16T08:42:20.502-04:002010-06-16T08:42:20.502-04:00Oscar buzz for Dorff, Jackie Chan and the two Fann...Oscar buzz for Dorff, Jackie Chan and the two Fanning girls...it seems we could have an unconventional awards season this year and I'm glad about it!!!Mirko S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-53957108229147210922010-06-16T07:50:30.716-04:002010-06-16T07:50:30.716-04:00@Blinking Cursor -- i think that ooh warring sibli...@Blinking Cursor -- i think that ooh warring siblings thing happens pretty much anytime you have two famous people from same family. The reason people react like that especially in this case i'm sure is that Dakota Fanning has always seemed like a super ambitious adult trapped in child's body. Plus there's that SNL skit that basically had her fuming that Abigail Breslin was nominated before her.<br /><br />It's all in good fun.<br /><br />I have no doubt that eventually Dakota will make an Oscar race. But then I thought eventually it would happen for Drew Barrymore too so what do i know?<br /><br />@Robyn -- agreed on the soundtracksNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-46489564371570228672010-06-16T07:24:34.565-04:002010-06-16T07:24:34.565-04:00Don't worry people. Both Elle and Dakota will ...Don't worry people. Both Elle and Dakota will get an Oscar nom next year :D<br /><br />And they will both lose to Juliannne Moore or Annette Bening (my guess is that one of them will be campaigned in supporting. Probably Moore).<br /><br />But Somewhere looks absolutely fabulous. Just chillin' at the Chateau. That's too Hollywood for Hollywood to ignore.Michael W.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-25052402578066161262010-06-16T06:32:08.201-04:002010-06-16T06:32:08.201-04:00I'm SUPER EXCITED for this, anyone who uses St...I'm SUPER EXCITED for this, anyone who uses Stephen Dorff is good in my books, and Sophia always has killer soundtracks. Can't wait for this!robynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10320200551641663708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-79427326196794396662010-06-16T01:18:52.204-04:002010-06-16T01:18:52.204-04:00Yes - Pretty much all of it. Giving a lead role to...Yes - Pretty much all of it. Giving a lead role to Dorff, the cinematography, the design, everything.<br /><br />No - "Music by Phoenix". Oh FFS, Sofia. Her soundtracks are usually events in themselves, but if it's just going to be all Phoenix then that's disappointing. I want my 1980s new wave!<br /><br />Maybe So - Not enough Stephen Dorff shirtless. Sure, there looks to be a nice amount of it, but perhaps not enough. We shall see.Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08194113062830373898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-84625263767117210842010-06-16T00:14:36.842-04:002010-06-16T00:14:36.842-04:00Why is there all this talk of strife within the Fa...Why is there all this talk of strife within the Fanning household should Elle get an Oscar nomination before Dakota? This is not the first time I've read such comments on the Film Experience, and I'm wondering at why/how this came to be. I'm not overly familar with either of the Fanning sisters' oeuvre, but from what little I do know of them, they are said to be very close and supportive of one another. So what's with the snarky comments of alleged sisterly strife?Blinking_Cursornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-42189527321174124122010-06-15T23:10:31.559-04:002010-06-15T23:10:31.559-04:00NEVER LET ME GO trailer out - I liked it. Can I sa...NEVER LET ME GO trailer out - I liked it. Can I say... NOMS FOR CAREY AND KEIRA? :D<br /><br />Plus Best Pic?Jorge Rodrigueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773926428295140628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-20568714316642807022010-06-15T21:47:14.005-04:002010-06-15T21:47:14.005-04:00yes - i'm all for lazing around luxury hotels ...yes - i'm all for lazing around luxury hotels <br />no - that underwater tea party seems unbearably twee<br />maybe - sofia's track record (which is a yes, no and maybe in itself)par3182https://www.blogger.com/profile/03647653154201086767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-15548357714384846732010-06-15T17:53:29.013-04:002010-06-15T17:53:29.013-04:00How can anyone be excited about a nothing trailer?...How can anyone be excited about a nothing trailer? Beyond the base-line excitement of "a Sofia Coppola movie right on time", there doesn't seem to be anything to actually try to attract any audience, discerning or otherwise. (See Wall Street 2, Scott Pilgrim, Inception and The Kids Are Alright, for film trailers that actually manage to give us a sense of tone, visual concept and characterisation without being a plot outline. This trailer for Somewhere is just a rich jerk and his daughter in a hotel, with not even a hint of character shape or direction: Trailer = D+. Wall Street 2: All = B, Scott Pilgrim: 1 = B-, 2 = A+, The Kids Are Alright = A-, Inception: 1 = C-, 2 = B+.)Volvagianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-74000016626991413282010-06-15T16:28:24.551-04:002010-06-15T16:28:24.551-04:00Loved "Lost in Translation" (and that...Loved "Lost in Translation" (and that's all I've liked off of Sofia Coppola's resume), and this trailer takes a lot of that mood and vibe for this story, so I'm interested. And sadly, I had a mad crush on Stephen Dorff circa-mid 1990s, so it'll be nice to root for him again and see him do something respectable.Dellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-65681661951120544022010-06-15T16:20:42.112-04:002010-06-15T16:20:42.112-04:00A big, fat yes on my behalf. I love all of S. Copp...A big, fat yes on my behalf. I love all of S. Coppola's efforts so far. As a sidenote, isn't it cool how both Elle fanning and Dakota Fanning have broken out into entirely different parts of the industry? Dakota is so totally a mainstream Julia Roberts/ Rennee Zellwegger (ew) type, whilst Elle is slowly becoming a lovely Kirsten Dunst/Parker Posey type. How fun! Can't wait to see them as they grow and mature in their acting abilities.Kevin P. Durkinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-80645934797655324482010-06-15T16:07:51.790-04:002010-06-15T16:07:51.790-04:00Yeah, I'm dying for the whole Elle getting a n...Yeah, I'm dying for the whole Elle getting a nomination before Dakota thing (and if it mirror the de Havillands, they both win one, which is fun). Mostly because I'd like another popular young actress who can, err, actually act.John Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778817752411507792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-63347800006436152702010-06-15T16:04:20.575-04:002010-06-15T16:04:20.575-04:00Well, I'm excited!! I loved The Virgin Suicide...Well, I'm excited!! I loved <i>The Virgin Suicides</i> and <i>Marie Antoinette</i> (haven't seen LiT yet), so I look forward to what Coppola has in store for us. And Nat, I'm SO with you on MA, I don't see how anyone watching that film could think she was trying to make a totally historically accurate film.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-85693040110845045702010-06-15T15:26:16.122-04:002010-06-15T15:26:16.122-04:00I am all about seeing this movie, but does it worr...I am all about seeing this movie, but does it worry anyone else that Dorff is starting to look like Kevin Costner? That's who I thought he was when I first loaded this page.Marsha Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12029597754334771121noreply@blogger.com