tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post9173628074004899530..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Oscar's LabyrinthNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19135193107277698882007-02-25T07:09:00.000-05:002007-02-25T07:09:00.000-05:00Am I the only one that doesn't think it will take ...Am I the only one that doesn't think it will take score? Don't get me wrong, it probably deserves it, but I think the likelihood that either Babel or even Notes on a Scandal will win is much, much higher than Pan's Labyrinth unfortunately. I could be wrong... but I just don't think it'll win that one.<BR/><BR/>In the end I'm guessing it'll take home 4 of those 6, missing out on score and cinematography (which has to go to Children of Men).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-52312907010992831362007-02-23T08:03:00.000-05:002007-02-23T08:03:00.000-05:00Bet365.com are offering odds on the film to win th...Bet365.com are offering odds on the film to win the most oscars. They go 6/4 Dreamgirls, 5/2 Pans Labyrinth, 7/2 The Departed, 6/1 Babel, 16/1 Pirates 2, 20/1 The Queen and 20/1 Little Miss Sunshine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-13332095406497027522007-02-23T07:48:00.000-05:002007-02-23T07:48:00.000-05:00Dreamgirls and Pan's could easily end up with the ...<I>Dreamgirls</I> and <I>Pan's</I> could easily end up with the higher totals, besting all BP contenders.<BR/><BR/>Gotta say, I switched my iTunes over the US version (I can't purchase anything, but I can listen to the samples) and am going through the score of <I>The Good German</I>... I am loving it. I kind of wish Newman had a chance, but I really don't see it happening.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-62369054530296223132007-02-23T06:03:00.000-05:002007-02-23T06:03:00.000-05:00I'm suprised no one has mentioned another non-best...I'm suprised no one has mentioned another non-best picture nominee that could easily win the most awards of the evening: Dreamgirls. While its only true lock is supporting actress, it is near the top of the heap in virtually every other category in which it is nominated. Eddie is by no means a lock for best supporting actor- but he is considered the frontrunner- if only by an inch. After that, Dreamgirls has a pretty good shot at best sound and a decent shot at Costume design and Song. In art direction, I would say that it is only second (in terms of how the academy may vote) to Pan's Labyrinth. It COULD conceivably win every category it's nominated for: a total of six. Now do I think it will win six? No, I don't think it was respected that much by the Academy. But, it does have a strong possibility to have the most wins- or at least tie for the most with around 4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-66443021153273229052007-02-23T05:40:00.000-05:002007-02-23T05:40:00.000-05:00Pan's Labyrinth is too dark (literally and figurat...Pan's Labyrinth is too dark (literally and figuratively) and gratuitously violent. The characterizations are thin and stereotypical. Makeup Award yes, but "The Lives of Others" is the more classic film with stunning performances, terrific writing and set design, not just special effects, and which in 10 years will still be considered the winner of the category.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26882035132860288202007-02-23T04:53:00.000-05:002007-02-23T04:53:00.000-05:00Also -- I think Pan's will take Original Score. Fo...Also -- I think Pan's will take Original Score. Foreign films (and composers) have done well in that category for a long time now.Sidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647511701225586270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-74515956955971631692007-02-23T03:52:00.000-05:002007-02-23T03:52:00.000-05:00Arkaan, don't remind us of that horrible injustice...Arkaan, don't remind us of that horrible injustice!<BR/><BR/>I'm surprised Nat never really made a big thing on the fact that four BP nominees are contemporary and four BP nominees have original screenplays.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32357592717365432472007-02-23T01:49:00.000-05:002007-02-23T01:49:00.000-05:00i love the prediction...we'll watch and see what h...i love the prediction...<BR/><BR/>we'll watch and see what happens for sure!RChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11340006144797496514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-73948816505831873322007-02-23T01:09:00.000-05:002007-02-23T01:09:00.000-05:00Just saw The Lives of Others, it deserves the Osca...Just saw The Lives of Others, it deserves the Oscar for best foreign film. Hell, maybe the best of film of 2006.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-27945473633975982032007-02-22T21:53:00.000-05:002007-02-22T21:53:00.000-05:00If it gets original screenplay OVER FOUR BEST PICT...If it gets original screenplay OVER FOUR BEST PICTURE NOMINEES, history would've been made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-70485984018453816502007-02-22T21:47:00.000-05:002007-02-22T21:47:00.000-05:00I like The Good German quite a bit and enjoyed New...I like The Good German quite a bit and enjoyed Newman's music a lot, but for sheer knocking-round-the-brain memory, Pan's Labyrinth has it beat (think Pleasantville AND The Thin Red Line losing to Life is Beautiful). I would vote for Newman of this line-up, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-86952280386471099012007-02-22T21:03:00.000-05:002007-02-22T21:03:00.000-05:00THE GOOD GERMAN doesn't have a memorable theme? Th...THE GOOD GERMAN doesn't have a memorable theme? That love theme alone, with its bitonal construction, is one of the best thematic ideas in film music this year.<BR/><BR/>PAN'S LABYRINTH's memorable theme, sadly, sounds a little like 'Mary had a little lamb' in a minor key...MichaelMclhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641747114551386727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-68784387546390506402007-02-22T21:01:00.000-05:002007-02-22T21:01:00.000-05:00I've always been very wary of Pan's Labyrinth in t...I've always been very wary of <I>Pan's Labyrinth</I> in tge Foreign Language Film category. There <I>are</I> marks against it and it's foolish to not see that (I've been making the <I>Amelie</I> comparison all along, it definitely fits). But I think it's war themes and it's child-adult relationshipness (?) will put it across the line from <I>The Lives of Others</I>.<BR/><BR/>I think if voters are voting for <I>Pan's</I> in Art Direction and Score and so on then they'll just naturally vote for it in Foreign Language, too.<BR/><BR/>I do think it will be win the most on the night by taking Foreign Language, Art Direction (it really oughta take it), Original Score and Make-Up. <BR/><BR/>I would say it is definitely a spoiler for Cinematography, but it is just as free of widescreen vistas as <I>Children of Men</I> is. If it somehow gets Original Screenplay, that'll be huge.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-11051754661832811202007-02-22T20:40:00.000-05:002007-02-22T20:40:00.000-05:00I think make-up and art direction is in the bag. ...I think make-up and art direction is in the bag. I think that score is probable (one advantage that Pan's has is that it has a great, memorable theme. The Good German doesn't, despite being wall-to-wall music; nor does The Queen. The majority of recent winners have great, memorable themes). That said, if a memorable theme loses, it loses to a film with a lot of music (Notes and German) or to someone who's overdue (German).<BR/><BR/> As for foreign film - I think The Lives of Others is gonna take it. While it doesn't have the comedic elements, I think the fact that it's so strongly fantastic will register negatively and give the sober, intelligent Cold War drama the edge it needs to slip by.<BR/><BR/> Screenplay is out and I agree that it's a darkhorse spoiler for cinematography, but I think Lubezki will pull it out in the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-290904497147124652007-02-22T20:04:00.000-05:002007-02-22T20:04:00.000-05:00Just a thought here - with Spanish language films,...Just a thought here - with Spanish language films, US distributors get a potential two-fer. A film first plays for the art and indie crowd, and also plays the Spanish language theater circuit before possibly playing in the multiplexes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-69709660484281720932007-02-22T19:50:00.000-05:002007-02-22T19:50:00.000-05:00anonymous --i'm not sure why the Amelie comparison...<B>anonymous</B> --i'm not sure why the Amelie comparison is absurd? films with fantastical elements which are global successes with very similar US box office (so far) and nearly identical Oscar profiles: multiple nominations (4 of them in the <I>exact same categories</I>) ...<BR/><BR/>what's absurd? I'm not saying their identical films of course that'd be just silly but so far very similar in their journeyNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-49149846978388375992007-02-22T18:42:00.000-05:002007-02-22T18:42:00.000-05:00I think in the context of the Oscar categories "Pa...I think in the context of the Oscar categories "Pan's" truly has the best art direction, makeup and score, and by quite a distance at that. However, the foreign films that won the most Oscars in the past were "Fanny and Alexander" and "Crouching Tiger", with 4 each (including Foreign Film), and those had at least Best Director nominations (Crouching was also BP nommed).Javier Aldabaldehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00426828972109311760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-15012531063404821662007-02-22T18:10:00.000-05:002007-02-22T18:10:00.000-05:00I hope Pan's Labyrinth win all awards. For me, it ...I hope Pan's Labyrinth win all awards. <BR/>For me, it is best film of the year. A masterpiece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-34297089157436783012007-02-22T17:52:00.000-05:002007-02-22T17:52:00.000-05:00I'd rank Navarette fourth among the musicians in t...I'd rank Navarette fourth among the musicians in terms of actually deserving the award. PAN has a definite weakness in the score department relative to Newman, Desplat and Glass's work, but as this is the same body that gave the awards to LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL and IL POSTINO, I'd say there's a strong chance he has it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-65808525407314986392007-02-22T17:42:00.000-05:002007-02-22T17:42:00.000-05:00The comparison Amelie-Pan's is kinda absurd. Ameli...The comparison Amelie-Pan's is kinda absurd. Amelie wasn't a real frontrunner in any category (not even in foreign film after it lost the Golden Gobe) unlike Pan, which is frontrunner in several categories.<BR/><BR/>This year Pan's labyrinth has more advantages to win foreign film: box office, critics support, the multiple nods also help (remember Fanny & Alexander) and the National Society of Film Critics for best picture could be a real help in the endAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-23413783741667682902007-02-22T16:23:00.000-05:002007-02-22T16:23:00.000-05:00It could win any of those and I'd be happy. Well, ...It could win any of those and I'd be happy. <BR/>Well, except Cinematography. Everything this year pales in comparison to Lubezki's brilliance.Beauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12330740987516007108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-78361258022218002412007-02-22T16:14:00.000-05:002007-02-22T16:14:00.000-05:00I still think (as posted on an earlier thread) tha...I still think (as posted on an earlier thread) that "Apocalypto" has so many performers in credible prostheses and paint at one time in such hostile (to make-up durability) environments that the pure scope of the achievement will get recognized. (Assuming enough voters see it.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-9445879688259264912007-02-22T15:27:00.000-05:002007-02-22T15:27:00.000-05:00that's right. sorry it was ineligible during it's ...that's right. sorry it was ineligible during it's release year or else it probably would have gotten some technical nominationsNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-24958191341378380872007-02-22T15:01:00.000-05:002007-02-22T15:01:00.000-05:00Hero was nominated. It just wasn't released then....Hero was nominated. It just wasn't released then. Somehow Miramax crapped up that release and didn't get here for another two years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-71585991889719884162007-02-22T14:44:00.000-05:002007-02-22T14:44:00.000-05:00I dunno Nat. The fact that people who have seen al...I dunno Nat. The fact that people who have seen all the five nominees can only vote for Foreign Language Film seems like an advantage for The Lives of Others. If members were voting merely based on buzz -- Pan's would get it. I'm just guessing that anyone who sees The Lives of Others (which will be everyone who votes) is going to feel a strong urge to vote for that movie -- it's more "important" and it's an equally good film. Also, it does have pretty spectacular reviews. The race is really tight.Sidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647511701225586270noreply@blogger.com