tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post138069966364839211..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Streep Nom #13: Adaptation (2002)NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-33972555882623615462010-07-09T03:55:34.334-04:002010-07-09T03:55:34.334-04:00Agreed... My biggest problem of recent times comes...Agreed... My biggest problem of recent times comes from last year when Penelope Cruz was nominated over Marion Cotillard for 'Nine'. Cruz just played a variation of her performance in Woody Allen's 'Vicky Cristina Barcelona' for which she did win. Cotillard turned what could have been a typical 'wife' role into a multi-dimensional character; knocking every one else in the film to second base.Benji Kiddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029265886005313971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-38734941834813849402010-07-05T20:04:17.317-04:002010-07-05T20:04:17.317-04:00Frankie and Johnny is another jewel, if not the br...Frankie and Johnny is another jewel, if not the brightest jewel in Michelle's acting crown. Now that was a SNUB.<br /><br />I thought all the girls in White Oleander were deserving of a nomination - Alison Lohman, Renee Z, Robin W Penn, and Pfeiffer.<br /><br />Julianne should have been the first actor to win both supporting and lead in the same year.SoSueMenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-81793914377486163022010-07-05T12:21:44.363-04:002010-07-05T12:21:44.363-04:00My 5 nominees were:
Meryl Streep/Adaptation
Cathe...My 5 nominees were:<br /><br />Meryl Streep/Adaptation<br />Catherine Zeta Jones/Chicago<br />Emily Watson/Punch-Drunk Love<br />Samantha Morton/Minority Report<br />Julianne Moore/The HoursIvannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32701626142137342732010-07-04T20:11:32.454-04:002010-07-04T20:11:32.454-04:00Loved both Streep and Zeta-Jones, but I'm real...Loved both Streep and Zeta-Jones, but I'm really happy to see you mention Bebe Neuwirth in Tadpole. That performance was a gem.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607567799469685872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26015059468615673842010-07-04T20:01:09.073-04:002010-07-04T20:01:09.073-04:00Of the female supporting performances that year, I...Of the female supporting performances that year, I was completely in love with Pfeiffer in "White Oleander" and Viola Davis in "Solaris". Hard to choose between the two, but maybe Pfeiffer. Such a wonderful indelible performance! And Davis ... I was just on the edge of my seat with not knowing what would happen next.<br /><br />For the others, I liked Toni Colette best of all the actresses in "The Hours" (and she also did a great job in "About a Boy"). I liked CZJ best of the "Chicago" crew, and of the 5 actual nominees, I would have picked her. I haven't seen Miranda Richardson in "Spider" but I'd bet that was one of the best performances of the year.<br /><br />So my choices would be: Pfeiffer (winner); Davis, Colette, Zeta-Jones; Richardson.adrinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-78139073223928445252010-07-04T18:03:32.855-04:002010-07-04T18:03:32.855-04:00If The Fabulous Baker Boys, Batman Forever and Whi...If <i>The Fabulous Baker Boys</i>, <i>Batman Forever</i> and <i>White Oleander</i> are the jewels in Pfeiffer's acting crown (and btw, I agree whole-heartedly), then <i>Dangerous Liasons</i> certainly is at least a luminescence pearl of a performance with those three gems. Who could forget the raw emotional torture and pain of confliction Pfeiffer manifested in her character of Madame de Tourvel? She gave the film a tragic heart and soul, and she proved, with this film, she could perform with the best of acclaimed film actors.<br /><br />She should have won the Oscar in 2002. 'Nuf said.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05012509745473551623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77963758490057799732010-07-04T16:34:45.769-04:002010-07-04T16:34:45.769-04:00I was under the impression than nobody was rooting...I was under the impression than nobody was rooting fot CZJ and she was considered undeserving of the award.Clovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-38748496243479721272010-07-04T16:21:58.122-04:002010-07-04T16:21:58.122-04:00I remember some general shock and disappointment o...I remember some general shock and disappointment over Zeta-Jones and Zhang not making it in over Walters and Dench. Maybe that momentum had something to do with Zeta-Jones' "Chicago" win, but the performance itself would have been enough I think even if that was her first screen performance. I liked Streep a lot in "Adaptation" too. Not enough for the win, but still good.BBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-58757642090721126182010-07-04T09:53:27.855-04:002010-07-04T09:53:27.855-04:00@Alex -- i'd say no. but now we're in an e...@Alex -- i'd say no. but now we're in an entirely different year. <b>re: 2000</b> I don't recall much anger about a Zeta-Jones "Traffic" snub mostly because people were thrilled that Marcia Gay Harden snuck in (including myself who predicted it)<br /><br />as i recall it went like so...<br /><br />HUDSON / MCDORMAND / GAY HARDEN<br />generating genuine excitement<br />WALTERS<br />solid fanbase love<br />DENCH<br />in the default spot that everyone just shrugged and accepted even though it was <b>entirely ridiculous!!!</b><br /><br /><i>the snub that people were genuinely angry about</i><br />ZHANG ZIYI, Crouching Tiger<br /><br /><i>if we could only see the vote tallies</i><br />Catherine Zeta Jones (Globe nominee Traffic) or Kate Winslet (SAG nominee Quills) both theoretically might have been in the dread sixth spot but there was also some critical noise for Catherine Deneuve (Dancer in the Dark) and since Best Pictures always have coattails I'm assuming Connie Nielsen won more votes for Gladiator, than anyone imagined at the time.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30248254691412751312010-07-04T05:52:50.983-04:002010-07-04T05:52:50.983-04:00I like CZJ but for me this year is a constant toss...I like CZJ but for me this year is a constant toss-up between Meryl and Julianne. Those two really owned the year... both were spectacularly good in The Hours, and then there were Far From Heaven and Adaptation to contend with. Either could have won for either film, and I would have been happy.<br /><br />I also like Kidman, but I think she's outdone by the others in The Hours. She had flashes of genius in some of her line deliveries but didn't pull out all the non-verbal stops that Moore and Streep excelled at throughout The Hours. And of course, were Huppert given her due she would have streamrolled all opposition.Andrew Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09633362421284508483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-42509838985451422842010-07-04T04:06:47.304-04:002010-07-04T04:06:47.304-04:00I would have given the statue to Catherine Zeta-Jo...I would have given the statue to Catherine Zeta-Jones, too. She was immaculate. Of the nominees I'd give silver to Streep, although i haven't seen it since opening weekend at the cinema so I'm not sure.<br /><br />My own person roster was Clarkson, Falco, Pfeiffer, Streep and Zeta-Jones.Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08194113062830373898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-27911726193126773532010-07-04T02:13:48.111-04:002010-07-04T02:13:48.111-04:00Clarkson should have been nominated, dammit. Throw...Clarkson should have been nominated, dammit. Throw out Bates: agree with /3rtfull, her nom seemed more for being a recognizable name in That Great Jack Movie than anything else. CZJ and Streep are almost tied for me, Latifah's all right...but I'm not keen on most of Moore's work in The Hours (though I LOVE her in Far From Heaven).Walter L. Hollmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13636732594078157905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-78331320580713653272010-07-04T01:30:51.854-04:002010-07-04T01:30:51.854-04:00Oh, also, I wasn't Oscar watching back then, b...Oh, also, I wasn't Oscar watching back then, but to anyone who was: did CZJ's horrendous Traffic snub have anything to do with her win? Momentum and all...Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206689829422865411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-27296024332614369632010-07-04T01:16:41.939-04:002010-07-04T01:16:41.939-04:00I have a lot of personal problems with Supporting ...I have a lot of personal problems with Supporting Actress in 2002. To start with, my 3 medalists give what I think are probably the 3 best performances in this category of the decade, give or take Tilda or Virginia Madsen, so it's hard for me to put them in order:<br /><br />1. Catherine Zeta-Jones (Chicago)<br />2. Meryl Streep (Adaptation)<br />3. Michelle Pfeiffer (White Oleander)<br /><br />Then on a much lower tier, we have...<br /><br />4. Patricia Clarkson (Far From Heaven)<br />5. Susan Sarandon (Igby Goes Down)<br /><br />But really, if I had my way, Helena Bonham Carter would have the #4 slot for her performance in the HBO movie Live From Baghdad. I'd even think about swapping Clarkson for Janeane Garofalo (The Laramie Project), though that'd be a tough call.<br /><br /><br />As for Best Actress (where I think Moore qualifies for The Hours, though she obviously doesn't stack up against herself in Far From Heaven), Hayek wasn't always guaranteed that nomination with Streep in the mix, right? I read somewhere above that Zellweger had the 5th slot, and maybe they weren't speaking literally, but there's no way Hayek wasn't last on anyone's ballot. Anyway...<br /><br />1. Julianne Moore (Far From Heaven)<br />2. Diane Lane (Unfaithful)<br />3. Meryl Streep (The Hours)<br />4. Nicole Kidman (The Hours)<br />5. Renee Zellweger (Chicago)Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206689829422865411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-39147121880468571422010-07-04T00:32:30.550-04:002010-07-04T00:32:30.550-04:00Hmmm....
For me, the top two (CZJ and Streep) a...Hmmm....<br /><br /> For me, the top two (CZJ and Streep) are so far ahead of the rest of the nominees it feels like they're juniors. Replace with Richardson and two of Huppert, Morton, Falco and Kathleen McDermott (Morvern Callar). I like to pretend Latifah's nomination was for Living Out Loud.<br /><br /> Between Streep and CZJ, I truly don't care who wins. Streep's performance is an unexpected delight in a film full of delights. CZJ gives a pure star performance, ramping up the charisma to dazzling effect.Arkaannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30420320918571469452010-07-03T23:47:49.666-04:002010-07-03T23:47:49.666-04:00This is, without question, one of my favorite nomi...This is, without question, one of my favorite nominations ever! What she does with Susan making her absurd yet somehow deeply humane is just a fascinating experience. But that she nor the literally equally fantastic Julianne Moore failed to win is beyond me. Jones' is a TERRIBLE performance, that shouldn't have even gotten a nomination.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15328588663743547744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-15140407604524878652010-07-03T23:25:39.862-04:002010-07-03T23:25:39.862-04:00cal -- yeah, it's pretty crazy when two perfor...cal -- yeah, it's pretty crazy when two performances that great in the same year. On the other hand. you're so so wrong about Babs in Funny Girl. Easily one of the best Best Actress wins. She slams dunks that whole effin HUGE star turn. There's only 1 or 2 musical/acting performances that are its equal.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-17798852712808086252010-07-03T22:43:33.471-04:002010-07-03T22:43:33.471-04:00Gotta go with Zeta on this one still. Her "A...Gotta go with Zeta on this one still. Her "All That Jazz" sealed up her Oscar win, but "I Can't Do It Alone" and the finale were just as thrilling. Meryl was a close second. It was another one of those sad "in another year, she would have won" type deals. I won't throw Queen Latifah under the bus. I loved her Mama Morton. Kathy Bates was okay. I'd throw out Julianne Moore in a heartbeat for "The Hours" for just about anything else. Samantha Morton for "Minority Report" would have been sweet. Michelle Pfeiffer for "White Oleander" would have been good too. Maybe not my first choice. I could have rooted for Edie Falco in "Sunshine State" too. It was a good category for the most part, and I think that the right person won the Oscar.Sebastiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4577779517890207942010-07-03T22:08:34.786-04:002010-07-03T22:08:34.786-04:00This year seemed so silly to me since I could neve...This year seemed so silly to me since I could never register any performance after I saw The Piano Teacher.Then I saw J. Moore in Far From Heaven, and, you know, it was one of the rarest ocasions when a tie for best actress was justifiable (Babs/Kate was not, since Kate is so much better)... <br /><br />How could that world survive performances like Moore's and Huppert's in the same year? We wait decades for this kind of work, and then they come at the same time, in two.<br /><br />In supporting, I'm still with CZJ. Streep is very very good, but Zeta is better. I'd nominate Watson for Punch Drunk Love, too.cal rothnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-62201685975143785692010-07-03T22:08:33.394-04:002010-07-03T22:08:33.394-04:00I still stand by CZJ's win, though I do apprec...I still stand by CZJ's win, though I do appreciate (if not love) Streep's work in "Adapation." Pfeiffer's inclusion, however, would have sweetened the pot so much more. It's been ages since I've seen "White Oleander" -- and only once at that -- but so much of her performance remains indelible to this day ("You don't go anywhere until I let you go!"). I remember enjoying Bates's work too, so her nod never bothered me.<br /><br />As for Latifah and Moore...eh. "When You're Good to Mama" is one of the best performed numbers in the movie, but we're talking about a complete portrayal here. And I actually thought both Streep's and Moore's work in "The Hours" was kinda muddy, for lack of a better term. Toni Collette was always the best in show for me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04521208512678472596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-77436265501580807932010-07-03T20:57:55.182-04:002010-07-03T20:57:55.182-04:00Streep is my pick of the nominees, with CZJ in sec...Streep is my pick of the nominees, with CZJ in second, too. I remember thinking Pfeiffer didn't have a chance with the reception for White Oleander, and then the SAG nomination suddenly giving me hope. The same thing happened last year with Diane Kruger.<br />I wonder why Oleander's director never made another film. I give him a lot of credit for Pfeiffer's performance, as talented as she is. Those two looks at the end!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11061599899403736592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-65269765160753982442010-07-03T19:59:05.206-04:002010-07-03T19:59:05.206-04:00This was a great year for the supporting-ladys! An...This was a great year for the supporting-ladys! And this is my list: <br /><br />1 Julianne Moore - The Hours<br />2 Michelle Pfeiffer - White Oleander <br />3 Meryl Streep - Adaptation <br />4 Catherina-Zeta Jones - Chicago<br />5 Toni Collette - About a Boy & The Hours (cameo)<br />6 Kathy Bates - About Schmidt<br />7 Queen Latifah - Chicago<br />8 Amy Adams - Catch Me If You Can<br />9 Patricia Clarkson - Far From Heaven <br />10 Laura Linney - The Life of David Gale<br /><br />(P.s.: Streep was much better as lead in "The Hours" than Zellweger in "Chicago".)Steolicioushttp://moviearena.forum-aktiv.com/portal.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-12579860902954325092010-07-03T19:54:42.084-04:002010-07-03T19:54:42.084-04:00Adaptation is actually, if you can believe it, my ...Adaptation is actually, if you can believe it, my favorite Meryl Streep performance. And I'm well-versed in Streep. And naturally, I do think it's her most criminal loss. <br /><br />I'd rank the nominees <br />1. Streep <br />2. CZJ <br />3. Moore <br />4. Bates <br />5. Latifah <br /><br />It was a very good lineup. The only change I would make is substituting Queen Latifah for Patricia Clarkson in Far From Heaven.Sean Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-69187093738211121802010-07-03T19:02:25.425-04:002010-07-03T19:02:25.425-04:00I have to say Meryl Streep should have won this ca...I have to say Meryl Streep should have won this category, even if Catherine Zeta-Jones delivered a great performance. However, I did love Patricia Clarkson's performance more than anyone else's.<br /><br />Don't remind me of the Best Actress category. I still do not get Nicole Kidman's win. Totally undeserving. Sorry.kochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4326013473922331842010-07-03T18:58:58.736-04:002010-07-03T18:58:58.736-04:00Recently watched "Adaptation" for the fi...Recently watched "Adaptation" for the first time. I can tell you that I'll re-watch it again very soon. So far, it's my favorite Kaufman flick, but his take so long to process that that statement is still on pretty thin ice.Danny Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09156845190808578435noreply@blogger.com