tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post3477034851793510076..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Oscar's Collection: The Youngest Best Actress NomineesNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-63260300852400329572010-10-30T08:26:53.830-04:002010-10-30T08:26:53.830-04:00Tahj -- this list was only about BEST ACTRESS. The...Tahj -- this list was only about BEST ACTRESS. The youngest to win two nominations (of any acting sort) was Angela Lansbury (with Kate Winslet and Sal Mineo as the runners up) <a href="http://filmexperience.blogspot.com/2010/10/angela-lansbury-and-other-oscar-record.html" rel="nofollow">as discussed in a previous post</a>.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-52573700162088006692010-10-30T00:34:07.823-04:002010-10-30T00:34:07.823-04:00You all mentioned Natalie and Audrey Hepburn as th...You all mentioned Natalie and Audrey Hepburn as the youngest to have two, well actually wasn't Kate Winslet the youngest actor ever to land two nominations? And then she kept breaking the record with subsequent nominations (youngest to get three, youngest to get four, etc).<br /><br />Oh and Isabelle Adjani was so young giving that masterful performance in The Story of Adele H!Tahjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-83257028150803642982010-10-29T07:36:45.192-04:002010-10-29T07:36:45.192-04:00Alex -- well, yes. The Academy clearly had issues ...Alex -- well, yes. The Academy clearly had issues with Kathleen Turner. At least she got one nomination but she's one of the greats (like Mia Farrow) that they just couldn't warm to for reasons which I imagine were entirely based on things offscren.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-53179597927159759072010-10-29T00:49:33.156-04:002010-10-29T00:49:33.156-04:00Don't be mad at Marlee, be mad at the Academy!...Don't be mad at Marlee, be mad at the Academy! I personally think she deserved the Oscar, and I don't think anyone would be upset if Kathleen (who I LOVE) had just been nominated for Body Heat, Romancing the Stone, Prizzi's Honor, The War of the Roses, and Serial Mom (though that would've never happened).Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206689829422865411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-3344989950167971972010-10-28T20:54:40.860-04:002010-10-28T20:54:40.860-04:00In your Youngest Best Actor list, you write,
&quo...In your Youngest Best Actor list, you write,<br /><br /><i>"Once actors have hit 30 the leading roles start coming."</i><br /><br />as an explanation for the age disparity of male and female nominees.<br /><br />I respectfully disagree with this view. Whatever the reason is for so many more female nominees under 30 than male, it can't be due to the roles becoming available to men over 30, while being scarce for men under 30. That may be a factor but it's a very very minor factor IMO.<br /><br />For example, DiCaprio and Winslet both became huge stars thanks to TITANIC, but only Winslet got the Oscar nod. Both continued to receive plum parts in mainstream movies all throughout their 20s, yet again, only Winslet continued to accumulate nominations. DiCaprio was receiving just as many good parts as Winslet, yet he wasn't scoring the Oscar noms and she was.<br /><br />Likewise, Christian Bale made a movie called THE MACHINIST at about the same age as Natalie Portman is now, a movie that seems almost identical in themes, storyline, and plot twists to BLACK SWAN (I'm basing this on the BS script, I haven't seen the movie yet). Yet, despite a very compelling and technically accomplished performance, he received no Oscar buzz whereas she's already been annointed by critics the frontrunner. <br /><br />Another example: Adrien Brody only won his Oscar because Oscar voters disregarded the critics' choice of frontrunner, Daniel Day-Lewis for GANGS OF NEW YORK, who won many more critics' prizes than Brody did that year.<br /><br />A counter-example: Anne Reid garnered many excellent reviews for her acting in the May-December romance THE MOTHER. Few awards, however, and no Oscar nod. When Peter O'Toole did a very similar movie called VENUS made by the same group of people (writer Hanif Kureishi and director Roger Michel), he got feted and nominated. he old man got in, the old woman didn't. <br /><br />My belief is that many critics, and some Oscar voters, feel vaguely threatened by young actors. An old man would rather see someone closer in age to himself win than some young whippersnapper. It makes him feel over-the-hill to see all the prizes go to very young men. <b>However, I feel that it's actually critics and journalists, far more than Oscar voters, who feel this threat most strongly and who are most directly responsible for blocking young actors from many noms or wins.</b> Perhaps no very young actor in the history of American film has enjoyed more unanimous critical approval and adulation than Marlon Brando in the 50s. Surprise, surprise: he's also the only actor to rack up nom after nom after nom after nom at the Academy Awards (five nominations by age 32!) in the early springtime of his career.<br /><br />That tells me that it's really critics and the media, more so than the Oscar voters themselves, who are the primary cause of young actresses reaping the gold while young actors very rarely do so. When critics unanimously exalt a very young male star, as they did with Brando, the Oscar voters tend to follow suit. On the rare occassions when critics really go to bat in a big way for a young star like Ryan Gosling, or the stars of Brokeback Mountain, for example, they got in - as the 60-year-old Helen Mirren also did, because the critics were unanimous about her. So don't count Jesse Eisenberg out. Much of it will be down to the critics' choices.HWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-57858267552594066482010-10-28T18:10:53.696-04:002010-10-28T18:10:53.696-04:00I have fixed the image. Damn that Jean Shrimpton w...I have fixed the image. Damn that Jean Shrimpton was a fox, though. I'm sad i can't use the photo now.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-21532589019405470402010-10-28T08:41:19.145-04:002010-10-28T08:41:19.145-04:00anon -- weird. it's labelled as Samantha Eggar...anon -- weird. it's labelled as Samantha Eggar on all sorts of websites.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-33885457291033533542010-10-27T23:53:50.450-04:002010-10-27T23:53:50.450-04:00Good Posting, but that is not Samantha Eggar with ...Good Posting, but that is not Samantha Eggar with Terence Stamp but model Jean Shrimpton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-27290338588428723782010-10-27T23:12:09.171-04:002010-10-27T23:12:09.171-04:00Love Pride & Prejudice and Keira Knightley. Sh...Love Pride & Prejudice and Keira Knightley. She deserved that award, though. And look at her now, she's famous than ever and I can't wait to see more of her movies.Karenhttp://thebizthoughts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-10679897397373233812010-10-27T23:09:54.783-04:002010-10-27T23:09:54.783-04:00i was being silly about the horrible oscar attire ...i was being silly about the horrible oscar attire for ms matlin. but a frumpy lavendar dress, flowers in the hair and glaaes? ick. anyhoo - i am crazy about kathleen turner in peggy sue. that scene she has with nichols cage in the basement...the campfire scene with the guy....talking to her grandmother on the phone....dad with the edsel - "dad, you always did stuff like that." i just love that movie / love her.jimmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-51026755396820345542010-10-27T20:08:23.553-04:002010-10-27T20:08:23.553-04:00Keira wasn’t nominated for Pride & Prejudice i...Keira wasn’t nominated for Pride & Prejudice in 2003. she is 25 now, so it’s about 2005, right?mikhaelhttp://aneducation.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-47845262243383563402010-10-27T19:42:06.790-04:002010-10-27T19:42:06.790-04:00Marlee Matlin shouldn't have won because of he...Marlee Matlin shouldn't have won because of her questionable styling on the actual night? Oh.<br /><br />Nathaniel, we have so many points where we lovingly agree to disagree, and Kathleen Turner's general level of awesomeness is sort of one of them. But in <i>Peggy Sue Got Married</i> specifically... I would love to hear a defense of this performance if you wind up seeing it again, especially since you're such a huge fan of Lt. Ellen Ripley. As much as I know you love Kathleen, I actually can't imagine you voting for her <i>in this</i> over Weaver in <i>Aliens</i>. There are a lot of KT performances better than Peggy Sue (a problem that starts with the absurd writing, so I'm not just blaming her). And up against Sigourney in and out of that yellow cargo loader? I just don't see it.<br /><br />Anyway (back to agreeing to disagree), I think Marlee's good in <i>Children of a Lesser God</i>, and I'm super excited about this career resurgence since <i>Dancing with the Stars</i>. She's beat the odds to become an awesome celebrity. (I'm thinking less of her being deaf than of her overcoming the expectation of being perceived as a "one-hit wonder" for quite some time.)NicksFlickPickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04607501848596529493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-22898888181889432062010-10-27T19:29:28.660-04:002010-10-27T19:29:28.660-04:00wow... i'm shocked to find out Julia was in he...wow... i'm shocked to find out Julia was in her early 20's when she got the nod for Pretty woman. And also didn't know Samantha Morton was so young back in 03 O_oeduardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02513348086637605216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4892457444621535592010-10-27T18:19:09.220-04:002010-10-27T18:19:09.220-04:00Jennifer Jones did won the oscar fot The Song of B...Jennifer Jones did won the oscar fot The Song of Bernadette. Great post Nathaniel! I really LOVE trivias!!Carlosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-64358657369418016202010-10-27T18:05:54.409-04:002010-10-27T18:05:54.409-04:00Sigourney Weaver was the best, for sure. Turner sh...Sigourney Weaver was the best, for sure. Turner should have won for Body Heat.cal rothnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-9410552826456541462010-10-27T18:01:55.866-04:002010-10-27T18:01:55.866-04:00Hey, how old was Saiorse Ronan when she was nommed...Hey, how old was Saiorse Ronan when she was nommed for Atonement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-61280263456390147182010-10-27T17:39:50.255-04:002010-10-27T17:39:50.255-04:00augh - marlee matlin - she should not have won - j...augh - marlee matlin - she should not have won - just take a look at the dress, the glasses, the hair. this was kathleen turner's year - her one & only year. i'm still pissed. what difference does it make??? i'm probably dead anyway.jimmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-63629252689635859912010-10-27T17:10:13.700-04:002010-10-27T17:10:13.700-04:00I'm STILL depressed about Evan Rachel Wood'...I'm STILL depressed about Evan Rachel Wood's snub...is that sad? :(Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32436931092481906842010-10-27T16:58:55.139-04:002010-10-27T16:58:55.139-04:00I think it's kind of all of you that no one me...<i>I think it's kind of all of you that no one mentioned how evil Marlee Matlin was to steal the Oscar away from Kathleen Turner.</i><br /><br />That’s because she stole it from Sigourney Weaver. <br />----<br />OT: Does anyone think the statuettes looked better when they had a shorter stand?/3rtfu11noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-13869165635326079782010-10-27T16:33:38.257-04:002010-10-27T16:33:38.257-04:00I think it's kind of all of you that no one me...I think it's kind of all of you that no one mentioned how evil Marlee Matlin was to steal the Oscar away from Kathleen Turner. SO NOT RIGHT!NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-58508173785186556472010-10-27T16:23:03.842-04:002010-10-27T16:23:03.842-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Andrew R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08656464274438644356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-7627701446547495652010-10-27T14:11:22.618-04:002010-10-27T14:11:22.618-04:00What would these ladies like to drink?
Bette Davi...What would these ladies like to drink?<br /><br />Bette Davis: "A milkshake!"<br /><br />I'm really humbled by your work (I'm talking to Nathaniel, though obviously I'm humbled by Bette's work too :p).<br /><br />It's kind of weird that the two youngest are: 1) Perf in a small film 2) FrenchJames Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16055933146552583102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-84738734553490581142010-10-27T13:33:14.895-04:002010-10-27T13:33:14.895-04:00volvagia -- while i sympathize with anyone who fig...volvagia -- while i sympathize with anyone who fights the good fight on category fraud, methinks you're outnumbered on this particular one. Few people have ever complained about Saoirse being a category fraud situation.<br /><br />and Lulu was usually pretty accurate with those calculations.<br /><br />Danielle -- I think you're right though i wouldn't count on <i> all of them</i>. By my estimation (i did the math like 5 years ago...) 67% of Oscar nominees in the acting categories are never nominated again.<br /><br />Mike -- i miss StinkyLulu's smackdowns too. They were so cool.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26487530820794581462010-10-27T13:32:39.869-04:002010-10-27T13:32:39.869-04:00In honor of the recently deceased Jennifer Jones, ...In honor of the recently deceased Jennifer Jones, you have to change her red color to BOLD since she did in fact win that Oscar for The Song Of Bernadette. <br /><br />David O. was able to get that first award for her, but kinda screwed up the rest of her career chasing down a second one.<br /><br />But just generally, wow, I am really impressed with this list. It must have taken a lot of effort to put together!Dave in Alamitos Beachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-34704098822799459592010-10-27T13:10:46.261-04:002010-10-27T13:10:46.261-04:00I watched very closely when I saw it on DVD. It wa...I watched very closely when I saw it on DVD. It was minute 70 by the time they actually got to the war. By that point, Ronan had picked up 50 mins of that 70. Add in a 5 minute flashback scene and I'm only 5 minutes off in my initial estimation. Point is: LEAD. And, by the way, who says a lead HAS to be A CONSTANT PRESENCE. Lead: An actor who controls the majority of the movie. Ronan definitely qualifies over Garai, McAvoy and Knightley.Volvagianoreply@blogger.com