tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post3662904588805902272..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: IMDb Top 20 Actress List. A Few Late Notes.NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-48764690184323084042010-11-25T20:09:20.720-05:002010-11-25T20:09:20.720-05:00Clearly Reese is snubbed. She is an Oscar-winner a...Clearly Reese is snubbed. She is an Oscar-winner as well as a bankable actress. Most of the actresses on the list are obviously not as good as she is. I don't know if the editor snubs her on purpose or not. She's just too big to ignore.Quintonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-7402626865845193482010-10-28T04:16:28.553-04:002010-10-28T04:16:28.553-04:00Julia and Meryl at the top is very accurate. Peopl...Julia and Meryl at the top is very accurate. People and critics criticizing Eat, Pray, Love in the US hindered much of its box office run but still managed to gross around $80 million which is good for a drama and a female driven film.But it just surpassed $100 million overseas because Julia is a big name outside the US. Most people outside the US rely on household names that they are familiar with. We actually still line up for Julia movies. And just for comparison The Blind Side was huge in the U.S. but was not really big international. I love Sandra B. too, but Julia has the lasting essence of a Movie Star.Babushkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-16390066850859750862010-10-19T14:57:03.824-04:002010-10-19T14:57:03.824-04:00Meryl not No. 01? SCANDALOUS! I love Julia, but Pr...Meryl not No. 01? SCANDALOUS! I love Julia, but Pretty Woman WAS 20years ago and Meryl's recent WOW at the box office beats Julia's. Then Meryl is the Queen as "best".<br />With this killer start, Meryl as second anywhere, it renders worthyless just to read the list through...VonCastlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17132536666047771318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-66551548510090487382010-10-07T04:37:18.145-04:002010-10-07T04:37:18.145-04:00Tagging my thoughts for each and everyone of these...Tagging my thoughts for each and everyone of these actresses <br /><br /><br /> 1. Julia Roberts: first woman to get the 20 mill deal, multiple box office hits, moviestar, rom-com queen, Oscarwinner and oh that smile, comeback<br /> 2. Meryl Streep. living legend, 8 oscarnoms in that period, beloved, power because of talent and respect, chamelon, acclaimed<br /> 3. Cate Blanchett: highly respected in the industry and offered all the baity roles as well, LOTR triolgy, 5 Oscarnoms, talent and intelligent, she can really greenlight a project ( The Gift), chamelon, fashionista #1, power, acclaimed<br /> 4. Kate Winslet: highly respected in the industry, 6 Oscarnoms, Titanic, dramaqueen, acclaimed<br /> 5. Jodie Foster: highly respected in the industry, Oscarwinner, 2 noms, her name= money, intelligent, power, thriller queen, speaks French, acclaimed. comeback, director<br /> 6. Nicole Kidman: respected, Oscarwinner, moviestar, Tom Cruise divorce, 5 highly acclaimed roles in a row<br /> 7. Sandra Bullock: rom-com, moviestar, Oscarwinner, funny, beloved, box office hit<br /> 8. Halle Berry; Oscarwinning historic moment, moviestar<br /> 9. Emma Thompson: Oscarwinner, funny, respected, writer, British, intelligent, acclaimed<br /> 10. Angelina Jolie: moviestar, sexy, Brangelina, box office hits, Oscarwinner + noms, respected, beloved, united colour of benetton kids, <br /> 11. Julianne Moore: drama and crying queen, 5 Oscar noms, respected, <br /> 12. Susan Sarandon:Oscarwinner + noms respected, living legend, intelligent, acclaimed<br /> 13. Helen Mirren: Oscarwinner + noms, British, popular, living legend, acclaimed<br /> 14. Gwyneth Paltrow: "controversial Oscar win", Pitt's ex, moviestar<br /> 15. Hilary Swank: 2 Oscar wins<br /> 16. Cameron Diaz: rom-com, comedy, moviestar, sexy, Oscar snubbed, popular, power<br /> 17. Renée Zellweger, Bridges Jones, Oscarwinner + noms<br /> 18. Meg Ryan: rom-com. comdey queen, has been, former moviestar<br /> 19. Jennifer Aniston: "moviestar" <br /> 20. Judi Dench: Oscarwinner + noms, living legend, British, Bond movies, respected, acclaimed, intelligentManuelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-63565044232549687402010-10-05T16:58:02.348-04:002010-10-05T16:58:02.348-04:00I agree with others about Goldberg. She is not the...I agree with others about Goldberg. She is not the first name you think of, but if you think about what she brought to the table, it was not only unique, but some EXCELLENT actressing in a way none of the others actressed. She also had some major hits on her hands and was a big deal at the beginning of the 90s. <br /><br />Also hard to see how one can make this list without the lovely Penelope Cruz who has been at or very near the top since 2006.Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-76331936338555772372010-10-05T11:32:23.621-04:002010-10-05T11:32:23.621-04:00I immediately noticed that the list was very, very...I immediately noticed that the list was very, very white (despite Berry). I was happy to notice the age range -- that's big progress!<br /><br />But Penelope Cruz should certainly be there, and Aishwarya Rai as well. I mean, cinema <em>isn't</em> just Hollywood.Deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05061313079120981794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19434835852003675622010-10-04T21:14:36.740-04:002010-10-04T21:14:36.740-04:00By any measurement, Meryl Streep should be #1. Th...By any measurement, Meryl Streep should be #1. That's a no-brainer. Also, I really don't like the list of male actors at all.brandznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-24858780998524890852010-10-04T19:02:10.746-04:002010-10-04T19:02:10.746-04:00I think Whoopi Goldberg, as a woman of color, has ...I think Whoopi Goldberg, as a woman of color, has had much more of a impact on film of the last 20 years than say Halle Berry. Whoopi's peak years were arguably [1985, 1989 - 1995.] Halle's [1998 - 2002], no competition.Natenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-55037255359826323632010-10-04T18:21:59.998-04:002010-10-04T18:21:59.998-04:00DOMINIK -- these were all the 22 people I mentione...DOMINIK -- these were all the 22 people I mentioned as 'would have to be considered' for that two decade timeframe (<i>i totally forgot Drew Barrymore & Whoopi Goldberg --oops</i>) even if you would decide they shouldn't make it personally... I mentioned them just as discussion topics since I don't beleive you can really understand the past two decades of actressing without these folks (though obviously some wouldn't merit "top 20"):<br /><br /><i>i'll include key years like i did with their actual list</i><br /><br />Uma Thurman [1990-1997, 2003-2005]<br />Penélope Cruz [1998-2000, 2004-now]<br />Frances McDormand [1996, 2000-2003]<br />Michelle Pfeiffer [1990-1996]<br />Joan Allen [1995-1998, 2000]<br />Winona Ryder [1990-1995]<br />Holly Hunter [1993-1995, 2003-2004]<br />Angela Bassett [1993-1998]<br />Demi Moore [1990-1994]<br />Anjelica Huston [1990-1993, minor wes anderson revival in aughts]<br />Charlize Theron [1997-2003]<br />Laura Linney [2000-2005]<br />Laura Dern [1990-1993]<br />Diane Keaton [1990,1996, 2003-2005]<br />Annette Bening [1990-1991, 1995, 1999]<br />Helena Bonham-Carter [1990-1993,1999]<br />Tilda Swinton [1992, 2001, 2007-now] <br />Keira Knightley [2002-2007]<br />Scarlett Johansson [2003-2008]<br />Reese Witherspoon [1998-2005]<br />Natalie Portman [1994-1996, 2003-2006, 2010]<br /><br />with a lot of actresses big gaps in their filmography killed their momentum (Bening was just skyrocketing in the early 90s for example but then abruptly quit when she got pregnant and dropped out of Batman Returns . Joan Allen and Holly Hunter also have weird gaps.)NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-16512047564549446372010-10-04T17:56:45.868-04:002010-10-04T17:56:45.868-04:00@AARON -- most of the women worked from 1990-2009....@AARON -- most of the women worked from 1990-2009... so i was just trying to point out the years in which people most obsessed over them. Obviously there is room for error there.<br /><br />@LARA -- well, yes and no. I feel with lists like this, you can't properly make them if you didn't experience the decade as an adult that you're talking about (IF what you're measuring is "importance and impact" because you would have had to have seen it.) So if their editors are say, in their early 20s... they wouldn't really have a clue who was equivalent impactful from 1990-1995 = 2005-2010 you know? that's why i feel like you can always tell when lists were made. They always emphasize the present even if they're meant to represent the past.<br /><br />@DOMINIK -- i think if you're combining two decades, some of those people would still make it. If you say 1970s through 1980s, yes Pfeiffer would have to rank very high even though she wasn't around in the 70s. But I also think people forget how important she was in the first half of the 90s since she petered out so much late in the second half and was so ambivalent about continuing in the Aughts (2 big hits but not much else that people noticed)NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-60706655404036532742010-10-04T17:55:47.239-04:002010-10-04T17:55:47.239-04:00@Amanda: can you link the "20 to watch" ...@Amanda: can you link the "20 to watch" list?Dominiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-31019670566052924272010-10-04T17:37:33.820-04:002010-10-04T17:37:33.820-04:00I think Jodie Foster's time frame should span ...I think Jodie Foster's time frame should span much longer than 1990-1997...honestly, she was very much present til the mid 2000s, with big box-office hits in Panic Room, Inside Man, Flight Plan, and The Brave One (to a certain extent...regardless, it still earned her a Golden Globe nomination). Not to mention the fact she worked with directors such as David Fincher, Spike Lee, and Neil Jordan...<br /><br />...she doesn't get enough credit for being one of the most consistently reliable and bankable actresses in Hollywood.Aaronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-90563767786687535632010-10-04T17:20:42.068-04:002010-10-04T17:20:42.068-04:00I was actually wondering the same as Dominic and I...I was actually wondering the same as Dominic and I'd like to add, who is Angela? Bassett?<br /><br />But I think us wondering who you mean is the reason they're not on this list.Laranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-31339814139456985352010-10-04T17:00:18.051-04:002010-10-04T17:00:18.051-04:00Ok... actors... I don't really feel Ian McKell...Ok... actors... I don't really feel Ian McKellen and Robert Downey Jr. have to be on that list... omissions... I'd say: Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis, Samuel Jackson... like them or not... they were very present and more than fairly successful I think. And @Volvagia, I used to hate Nic Cage for being in so many (apparently, obviously I didn't care to see them) crappy movies, most of which were so-called blockbusters, always playing the same unlikeable character (again: apparently) but I think he deserves his spot on that list "objectively", like it or not!Dominiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-42172740193561395462010-10-04T16:52:34.107-04:002010-10-04T16:52:34.107-04:00Bridges, Spacey and Pitt should be higher, Hanks, ...Bridges, Spacey and Pitt should be higher, Hanks, Washington and Cruise should be lower while the very hit-or-miss Nicholas Cage shouldn't even be on this list, especially since his next four films are directed by: Dominic Sena, Roger Donaldson, Patrick Lussier and Joel Schumacher. It's a cornucopia of "Oh bleep, how could this not suck." And if you don't trust me on that last one, Trespass is a 9 week shoot. Which screams "Big Movie." Which means...we're likely looking at something awful.Volvagianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30631073425416709572010-10-04T16:51:56.647-04:002010-10-04T16:51:56.647-04:00Another thing that just came to my mind, and I jus...Another thing that just came to my mind, and I just want to throw in. This list covers two decades, right? But which two decades belong together? The last two we saw, obviously. But isn't that very random? I think... definitely Michelle Pfeiffer, definitely Kim Basinger, maybe Melanie Griffith, maybe Sigourney Weaver, mayyybe Jessica Lange... would have made a list about 80s and 90s, but not a list about 90s and 00s (like the one we're discussing), nor a list about 70s and 80s. Don't you think?<br />Oh, but then again, Diane Keaton could be on any of those lists, couldn't she? Probably doesn't have to be, but could...Dominiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19835974685193853822010-10-04T16:43:41.727-04:002010-10-04T16:43:41.727-04:00Nathaniel, I can't really definitely figure ou...Nathaniel, I can't really definitely figure out who the 90s greats Joan, Laura and Laura that you mentioned are. I can think of two Joans, Allen und Cusack, and Allen is probably more likely. And the Laura's are... Linney... and ... Dern? Not really? But rather Dern that San Giacomo... who am I forgetting here? To comment on the original list, the strangest thing on that list is definitely Jennifer Aniston. I think they tried to sell some rom coms with her as the star, but it didn't work. The strangest omission I think is Uma Thurman. I like her kind of but not that much, but I think she was definitely important. Reese, Charlize, Nathalie, Kirsten etc. they probably felt they are just too young to make that list already.Dominiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4635945896971889822010-10-04T16:43:18.293-04:002010-10-04T16:43:18.293-04:00Seriously, why is no one considering Drew Barrymor...Seriously, why is no one considering Drew Barrymore? So she doesn't have an Oscar nomination. But she's been a movie star since 1982, and a bankable lead actress for over a decade. If you're going to allow for actresses like Aniston, Paltrow and Berry, then I can't understand why not Barrymore, who has been a bigger movie star than those three for longer.<br /><br />When we're finished with the next decade, and Drew's still around, making hit films (along with a few duds, but at least she's consistently working), and quite possibly clutching the Sandra Bullock Longevity Oscar, this list will look awfully stupid for leaving her off.Sawyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-90272760924659675172010-10-04T13:13:49.460-04:002010-10-04T13:13:49.460-04:00Here was their Actor's List in case the link d...Here was their Actor's List in case the link doesn't work:<br /><br />1.Tom Hanks <br />2.Russell Crowe <br />3.Denzel Washington <br />4.Johnny Depp <br />5.Sean Penn <br />6.Tom Cruise <br />7.Will Smith <br />8.George Clooney <br />9.Leonardo DiCaprio <br />10.Brad Pitt <br />11.Daniel Day-Lewis <br />12.Kevin Spacey <br />13.Jim Carrey <br />14.Ian McKellen <br />15.Morgan Freeman <br />16.Nicolas Cage <br />17.Christian Bale <br />18.Robert Downey Jr. <br />Actor, Iron Man<br />19.Heath Ledger <br />20.Jeff BridgesAshleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-22904491067510109442010-10-04T13:10:15.761-04:002010-10-04T13:10:15.761-04:00I think IMDB did a better job with the Actor's...I think IMDB did a better job with the Actor's List:<br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.imdb.com/list/77pbwLyeM0U/Ashleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-2225833114080779802010-10-04T13:00:50.567-04:002010-10-04T13:00:50.567-04:00I wasn't focusing on the campaign season. I wa...I wasn't focusing on the campaign season. I was focusing on this: Revolutionary Road was the better performance. That's it. Not, "Oh, shouldn't someone else have won" but, "She should have won, but not for the performance cited." She was much more, and this is the primary thing I look for in a performance, NATURAL in Revolutionary Road as opposed to The Reader. An acting prize for what amounts to accent work above naturalism? No... but, thanks anyway. By the way, I just want Stephen Daldry to do a comedy again. Unless he's too obsessed with breaking Kubrick's record of most consecutive films nominated for best director? (4 for K: Strangelove, 2001, Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon. A ridiculous 3 for D: Billy Elliot (support), The Hours (blinded by the wattage of Streep, Moore, Kidman, Harris, so ultimately understandable, but not supported), The Reader (don't support or understand at all, because of Nolan, Kaufman, Leigh, The Coens, anyone who actually did more solid work. I don't mind sad films, but the shooting style and performances of The Reader amount to a film that is grief baiting in the blandest possible way.)) In essence, the Academy should really think about nominating Daldry again, because then he's tied with Kubrick fcr most consecutive films nominated for Best Director. (Kubrick worked hard on both the visual and human aspects of film for those four nominations. Daldry...hasn't shown himself as anything more than a good performance director.)Volvagianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-41029825912204837362010-10-04T11:36:54.409-04:002010-10-04T11:36:54.409-04:00I'm clearly very out of touch with the world, ...I'm clearly very out of touch with the world, because all I could think of while reading this was Tilda Swinton.Andrew Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09633362421284508483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-74283449636838582952010-10-04T11:23:20.329-04:002010-10-04T11:23:20.329-04:00If this is to highlight the 20 TOP actresses of th...If this is to highlight the 20 TOP actresses of the past TWO decades....Than no, Penelope Cruz should not be on there. <br /><br />People are reading way, way too much into this. Nowhere, did it highlight the quality of acting. I think this list is actually fairly accurate. And Gwyneth Paltrow SHOULD be on there. She was most definitely one of the biggest names of the 90's, and she did a lot of great work (Flesh & Bone, Seven, Great Expectations, Emma, Sliding Doors, SIL, The Talented Mr. Ripley). I think her run in her 20's is a helluva lot better than some of the actresses in their 20's nowadays.<br /><br />The only actress I would remove is Hilary Swank, maybe Halle Berry. Reese Witherspoon should definitely be up there.Maddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26733601039113130752010-10-04T11:23:19.291-04:002010-10-04T11:23:19.291-04:00And Nathaniel, I totally agree about the fuss over...And Nathaniel, I totally agree about the fuss over Winslet in 2008. The problem is people can't watch the film without thinking about the award season. They resent overexposure and I notice I didn't see the bitterness until The Reader got best picture instead of the Dark Knight, and Winslet got the nomination for the Reader instead of Revolutionary Road. Had she been nominated for RR, people would hate on that because Weinstein's campaign tactics were so transparent so it's trendy to hate on Winslet's 08 season.Tahjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-64072598857732089922010-10-04T11:23:06.107-04:002010-10-04T11:23:06.107-04:00The most legendary actresses on that list to me ar...The most legendary actresses on that list to me are Julia Roberts, Meryl Streep and the low key Jodie Foster. They are the actresses I constantly see people making comparisons to "the new Julia!" "as versatile as Meryl!" "the next Jodie!"<br /><br />I can see why Julia Roberts ranks #1. If it were the last 30 years though, Meryl Streep should be #1 because she owned the 80s with her performances (and got some box office with Out of Africa).Tahjnoreply@blogger.com