tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post4677541379926966095..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Naked Gold Man: Dark Knight for Best Picture?NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-84921062363154820642009-01-19T15:34:00.000-05:002009-01-19T15:34:00.000-05:00Remember when "Little Miss Sunshine"(a DRAMA) won ...Remember when "Little Miss Sunshine"(a DRAMA) won best comedy just because the Academy didn't want to give the award to "Borat"? A movie that had the majority in tears of laughter from start to end?<BR/><BR/>Remember when "Juno" got nominated for Best Picture? Remember when "Chicago" not only won but also beat "LOTR" for Best Picture?<BR/><BR/>The Academy has a tendency of giving out Oscars to films that don't deserve it. This is why I don't care for The Oscars.<BR/><BR/>"The Dark Knight" is by far the BEST movie of 2008. I'm here to say don't get your hopes up because I'm certain that the Academy will give the Oscar to that "Slumdog" movie which is good BUT completely over-rated, hard to follow at times, and which contains the most unnecessary of endings (I refer of course to the musical sequence).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-60953607829287986192009-01-18T18:40:00.000-05:002009-01-18T18:40:00.000-05:00"The Dark Knight" has the support of pretty much a..."The Dark Knight" has the support of pretty much anyone who has seen it regardless of whether the individual showed previous interest in Batman or not. Even critics worldwide agree that this movie should win Best Picture let alone be nominated. <BR/><BR/>To add more, "The Dark Knight" is one of those movies that will be vividly remembered and highly praised 20 years from now. We can't say the same for any of the other movies that have been released in 2008. <BR/><BR/>If the Academy can nominate a musical like "Chicago" for best picture and let it walk away with the Oscar then I don't see why they will have trouble giving the Oscar to "The Dark Knight", a movie that has truly earned it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-30467361020058825292009-01-15T19:50:00.000-05:002009-01-15T19:50:00.000-05:00It was said that if one of the movies which was su...It was said that if one of the movies which was supposed to be nominated for best film (even though they didn't come out at the time!) turned out to be terrible then "The Dark Knight" would be GUARANTEED a nomination. Guess what? Australia SUCKED! <BR/><BR/>Critics, fans, and moviegoers worldwide have praised "The Dark Knight" and all agree that it is more then deserving for Best Picture. The amount of money that it has managed to make in the Box Office speaks for itself. <BR/><BR/>It is unarguable that "The Dark Knight" should win for the following:<BR/><BR/>Best Picture<BR/>Best Supporting Actor (RIP Heath)<BR/>Best Cinematography<BR/>Best Sound/Sound Editing<BR/>Best Adapted Screenplay<BR/>Best Director<BR/><BR/>"The Dark Knight" is by far the best film that has come out since "The Return of the King". The Academy was against it from the start because its a "superhero film". So what? It's not only got everything that a film needs to become the Best Picture of the year but also is the main reason why so many people are actually paying attention to the Oscars this year. If the Academy is smart they will recognize "The Dark Knight" for what it really is: An unforgettable masterpiece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-75344207321563843332008-11-03T00:38:00.000-05:002008-11-03T00:38:00.000-05:00intrade, a site on which you can bet on competitio...intrade, a site on which you can bet on competitions such as the one for "Best picture", gives Batman: the dark knight a 30 percent chance to win the oscar for best picture. Do you think it there is a 30 percent chance that batman will win?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-49191755698796243912008-08-25T10:37:00.000-04:002008-08-25T10:37:00.000-04:00anyone noticed that DK is the only in the top 15 l...anyone noticed that DK is the only in the top 15 least beside potter films for WBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-61531076017645233102008-08-23T13:58:00.000-04:002008-08-23T13:58:00.000-04:00I'm predicting Ledger's backlash and Eckhart's awa...I'm predicting Ledger's backlash and Eckhart's awards-love... Just a hunchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-21532889031247584972008-08-08T22:41:00.000-04:002008-08-08T22:41:00.000-04:00Well... I do believe the main concern for a BP nom...Well... I do believe the main concern for a BP nomination for Batman: The Dark Knight would be the release date of the film. It is a film full of potential but Warner Bros. never really appear to take the film seriously, deciding to release it in the summer (it is in fact a summer blockbuster) instead of saving it for the end of the year when it would probably be considered a serious Oscar contendant. <BR/><BR/>In this way, I believe Ledger should have his nomination, as well as Make-Up, Score, Screenplay, Cinematography and Directing. Picture is hard, very hard, but I believe that there's no other film that will please so many people this year. Nolan and Ledger will probably win (although Nolan has to look out for Eastwood), Screenplay has a scarce chance, as well as Make-Up and Score. Cinematography I don't see it happening, «Begins» deserved it more and it didn't happen so we shouldn't expect any miracles here. Editing no way, terrible in the film. Sound Editing maybe.<BR/><BR/>So I'll go for 6/7 nominations. <BR/><BR/>For Best Picture I'll bet:<BR/><BR/>- Doubt<BR/>- Challenging<BR/>- Milk<BR/>- Australia<BR/>- The Dark Knight<BR/><BR/>But we never know... The Academy is often crazy xD<BR/><BR/>Gave last year's BP award to a stupid film in my opinion. I almost fell asleep... :) And 'Juno'? Please! Last year Juno should have been replaced by «American Gangster» and «Ultimatum» should have been more present in the nominations.<BR/><BR/>Let's at least hope for a third Nolan Batman.Jorge Rodrigueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773926428295140628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-52390407565939037842008-08-07T18:01:00.000-04:002008-08-07T18:01:00.000-04:00Okay, so marked. But he's winning best supporting ...<I>Okay, so marked. But he's winning best supporting actor.</I><BR/><BR/>It's <B>not</B> a supporting role. Anthony Hopkins had far less screen time in <I>The Silence of the Lambs</I> and Ledger's performance is as dominating. I believe the only reason the Academy would nominate him in a supporting role is the belief that a comic book character is too demeaning to deserve a leading actor award.<BR/><BR/>Along these same lines, I also want to say that I think Robert Downey, Jr.'s performance in <I>Iron Man</I> is worth consideration for Best Actor as well. Is it anywhere near as good as Ledger's? No, but it's pretty damn good. I'm also not saying that <I>Iron Man</I> itself should be up for Best Picture---but Downey made that film and I don't think his performance should be forgotten.<BR/><BR/>Edward J. Cunningham<BR/>Rockville, MDEdward J. Cunninghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11925008506185290162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-51249013261100079762008-08-03T19:02:00.000-04:002008-08-03T19:02:00.000-04:00and also: i find it odd that we're convinced that ...and also: i find it odd that we're convinced that the ACADEMY's age means they don't fall for shit...<BR/><BR/>how do you explain SO many bad nominations over the years ;)NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-66376151309845914592008-08-03T18:48:00.000-04:002008-08-03T18:48:00.000-04:00ah oscar season. You can smell it coming whenever ...ah oscar season. You can smell it coming whenever people start getting nasty.<BR/><BR/>shall i pardon your english, <B>anon 7:07</B>? Nah! calling people names --whether its me or anyone else commenting -- is the quickest way to not be taken seriously.<BR/><BR/>in other words: if you can't play nice, please leave my sandbox. I like the debates to be spirited but not disrespectful <BR/><BR/>mwahNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-6784333749655915232008-08-02T23:23:00.000-04:002008-08-02T23:23:00.000-04:00The whiny adolescent fanboy/Oscar bloggers convinc...<I>The whiny adolescent fanboy/Oscar bloggers convinced that the darkness of Nolan's movie means that it's deep (it isn't) - & the members of AMPAS, the vast majority of whom are far too old to fall for that shit. </I><BR/><BR/>So any young supporters of the film are automatically "whiny adolescent fanboys" that can't discern depth, quality, and relevance just b/c you didn't like the film and find it to be overhyped. Wow, that's a special kind of assholishness right there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-88337153941090167322008-08-02T19:07:00.000-04:002008-08-02T19:07:00.000-04:00Regardless of YOUR age, nathaniel - this is - as I...Regardless of YOUR age, nathaniel - this is - as I have described - essentially a battle of wills between between two different age groups. The whiny adolescent fanboy/Oscar bloggers convinced that the darkness of Nolan's movie means that it's deep (it isn't) - & the members of AMPAS, the vast majority of whom are far too old to fall for that shit. <BR/><BR/>"and p.s.... I'm not a 60something Oscar voter."<BR/><BR/>Yes, but you ARE an ignorant cunt, nathaniel (if you'll pardon my English)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-34403878996856299832008-08-02T17:53:00.000-04:002008-08-02T17:53:00.000-04:00anon it may help you to read more carefully before...<B>anon</B> it may help you to read more carefully before making claims.<BR/><BR/>I am not...<BR/><BR/>1. a fanboy of The Dark Knight. I think it's good. No more no less.<BR/><BR/>2. a 20something<BR/><BR/>3. someone who thinks the dark knight is even CLOSE to the best movie i've seen in my short life. It won't even be in my top ten of 2008. <BR/><BR/>and p.s.... I agree with most of your complaints about the Dark Knight but I'm not a 60something Oscar voter.<BR/><BR/>so i'm in neither of your reductive groups ;) I do however believe that you will try not to remember this comment when Teh Dark Knight gets Oscar nominations. Yes, they're all iffy (outside Ledger) but even if the film doesn't get anywhere close to a BP nom it still has a decent shot at multiple nods, being a behemoth and all. Behemoth films that are ALSO lauded by critics tend to get at least a few compensatory nods.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-36975504171786288502008-08-02T07:16:00.000-04:002008-08-02T07:16:00.000-04:00The Dark Knight is an amusing illustration of the ...The Dark Knight is an amusing illustration of the difference in outlook between two competing groups. In one corner there are the massed ranks of fanboys & 20-something Oscar bloggers (Nat, Tapley, etc), all of whom are convinced TDK the greatest movie they've ever seen in their short lives.<BR/><BR/>In the other corner there's AMPAS, most of whose members are over 60, & regard TDK as as having a ridiculous, nonsensical plot, confusingly shot fight scenes, shallow themes & ideas (just because it's dark doesn't mean it's deep) as well as being sadistic & exploitative. <BR/><BR/>A possible nomination for Heath's performance as the Joker - maybe. We'll see if there's still a frenzy over this come December or if attention has shifted to other performances. But that's the only real possibility. Anything else other than minor tech noms, forget it. The best thing for its supporters is to hope that it'll do well at the MTV awards or the Golden Globes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-36025203570171109512008-07-31T15:33:00.000-04:002008-07-31T15:33:00.000-04:00Ledger should get an Oscar for sure...Oldman might...Ledger should get an Oscar for sure...<BR/>Oldman might get some consideration, but who knows.<BR/><BR/>MILK looks to be pretty good as wellDeepSixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02492609204980200167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-66392647305473604092008-07-31T10:37:00.000-04:002008-07-31T10:37:00.000-04:00What I question though is the notion that they'd e...<I>What I question though is the notion that they'd ever do anything for ratings (as so many people seem to believe). They haven't shown that they care about that. More power to them actually... the people who aren't watching the Oscars now don't care about the Oscars so what's the point in winning them over? They won't be a loyal audience anyway.</I><BR/><BR/>That fickle audience would watch if there was something there to appeal to them. Where is that 55 million that watched as "Titanic" won best picture? That audience is still there to be had. I do think that voters want their choices to be validated by the public, but what can they do when the "blockbuster" in their lineup is "Juno"? You deal with what you're given. And this year, they have that with the "legitimate" film "The Dark Knight" as opposed to "Harry Potter" or "Pirates of the Caribbean" to nominate into best picture. I think voters are going to give it a BP nod, and viewers and ABC will be extremely happy in the process.<BR/><BR/><I>Heath Ledger will receive a Best LEADING Actor nomination. Mark my words on it.</I><BR/><BR/>Okay, so marked. But he's winning best supporting actor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-49101524531673902362008-07-30T22:14:00.000-04:002008-07-30T22:14:00.000-04:00I'm not surprised to see that most posters here be...I'm not surprised to see that most posters here believe that the late Heath Ledger should get a posthumous Oscar nomination and possibly an award. But you have to have to be kidding me---<B>SUPPORTING</B>?<BR/><BR/>The only members of <I>The Dark Knight</I> who might get a Best Supporting Actor nomination are Aaron Eckhart, Sir Michael Caine, and possibly Gary Oldman.<BR/><BR/>Heath Ledger will receive a Best <B>LEADING</B> Actor nomination. Mark my words on it.<BR/><BR/>He has much more screen time in this film than Marlon Brando did in <I>The Godfather</I>, Peter Finch did in <I>Network</I>, and Anthony Hopkins did in <I>The Silence of the Lambs</I>. All those actors won for Best Leading Actor. Ledger's presence is also felt in scenes where he is not present.<BR/><BR/>The only reason to nominate him for Supporting Actor is that Warner Brothers believes another actor in the leading category will give a better performance more likely to win, or that Academy voters will be unwilling to give the more prestigious award to a comic book character.<BR/><BR/>The latter may well be the case because I don't think the former will be true at all.<BR/><BR/>Edward J. Cunningham<BR/>Rockville, MD<BR/><BR/>P.S. If the Academy <B>really</B> noticed Christopher Nolan's work before now, <I>Memento</I> should have received multiple nominations in 2001 rather than just the screenplay nomination which it unfairly lost.Edward J. Cunninghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11925008506185290162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-14917678866158318962008-07-30T19:21:00.000-04:002008-07-30T19:21:00.000-04:00anon --if you read the whole post you'd see that I...anon --if you read the whole post you'd see that I am in complete agreement with you.<BR/><BR/>What I question though is the notion that they'd ever do anything for ratings (as so many people seem to believe). They haven't shown that they care about that. More power to them actually... the people who aren't watching the Oscars now don't care about the Oscars so what's the point in winning them over? They won't be a loyal audience anyway.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-47798014069470979082008-07-30T10:55:00.000-04:002008-07-30T10:55:00.000-04:00Why wouldn't the Academy start to change their tun...Why wouldn't the Academy start to change their tune about nominating a blockbuster like "The Dark Knight" now? Do you think they were going to do it for Harry Potter? Or Pirates of the Caribbean? Spider-Man? The Bourne series? No. The choice would still have to be something respectable with a strong critical cachet attached to it. That's what happened with Lord of the Rings, and that's what happening now with "The Dark Knight" in spades. This is the only film I can think of that the Academy would actually get over their superhero genre bias toward, and it's one of those silly trends where "something doesn't happen until it happens". Why not this year then? Especially with it looking at being the #2 film OF ALL TIME! A ratings spike for that dreary telecast is just gravy, and that would affect ABC more than the voters anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-9217998439374846782008-07-30T09:09:00.000-04:002008-07-30T09:09:00.000-04:00Nothing is ever a lock in July. Especially the mak...Nothing is <B>ever</B> a lock in July. <BR/><BR/>Especially the makeup branch, which year in year out try and make the Academy look like fools.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-3294951309540097932008-07-29T22:41:00.000-04:002008-07-29T22:41:00.000-04:00Make-up, cinematography, and Supporting Actor are ...Make-up, cinematography, and Supporting Actor are locks for The Dark Knight. Maybe throw in the sound awards and either Screenplay or Director. Possibly Picture and Editing if they really go crazy for it, but really, the editing was the worst part of the movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-9653529652433714692008-07-29T18:03:00.000-04:002008-07-29T18:03:00.000-04:00sjimen and antichrist and others --where are y'al...<B>sjimen and antichrist and others </B> --where are y'all getting this notion about the ACADEMY? I've heard so many people say it but isn't this a media driven notion only and not anything else?<BR/><BR/> If the Academy really wanted to nominate blockbusters instead of midrange one leg in multiplex and one leg in arthouse dramas WOULDN'T THEY?<BR/><BR/>why would they change course just to suit numbers this year when their numbers have been sliding for literally years.<BR/><BR/>i think it's a valid question and I'm curious as to why everyone thinks AMPAS believes the same as the media here. Or do they just vote opposite of their true feelings? is that what's being suggested?NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-76360927522004351872008-07-29T17:03:00.000-04:002008-07-29T17:03:00.000-04:00With it's huge box office numbers [projected $...With it's huge box office numbers [projected $500 million? wow] the critical response, & AMPAS's desperate need for a popular film to boost ratings for the Oscars, I think The Dark Knight is a definite lock for Supporting Actor for Heath and several technical/artistic categories, specifically Art Direction, Cinematography, Editing, & Makeup. I think there's a good chance of a Screenplay nod too. As far as Best Picture & Director go, I dont know if it can get both. I think it's one or the other.JonnyJonnyDiazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05180163056869316732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-39578997216210541242008-07-29T03:07:00.000-04:002008-07-29T03:07:00.000-04:00I really believe that many Hollywood-people / Acad...I really believe that many Hollywood-people / Academy members are frustrated that in the last couple of years, so many small and foreign (meaning not made in LA) movies won big at the Osars. Last year you could hear the audience moan while the Europeans won the acting awards. <BR/><BR/>At the luncheon many people were asking (complaining) why The Bourne Ultimatum wasn't nominated for the big awards, just like Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Fugitive or The Sixth Sense were in the past.<BR/><BR/>Many of those complainers will certainly vote for The Dark Knight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-14525007741402994292008-07-28T20:35:00.000-04:002008-07-28T20:35:00.000-04:00I almost never prognosticate Oscar this early, but...I almost never prognosticate Oscar this early, but I do think Heath is a lock for a Supp Actor nomination and will probably win unless someone else delivers a truly bombshell performance this fall.<BR/><BR/>TDK could sneak in for either Picture or Director as well, though I sincerely hope not. I love the Nolan bros, but this is one movie where they let gravitas become draggy-tas.<BR/><BR/>And I agree with Nathaniel that the cinematography for "Batman Begins" was better. (Actually, I think BB was a better movie overall, though I realize I'm vastly in the minority.)lyleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00954420869268632653noreply@blogger.com