tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post5477075774937480015..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: SAG Injustice: When a Nomination is Still a SnubNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-59310672217703909952010-12-29T09:57:12.737-05:002010-12-29T09:57:12.737-05:00That's why Inception got snubbed.
There aren&#...That's why Inception got snubbed.<br />There aren't any credits!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-56309433117136520352010-12-22T17:29:42.439-05:002010-12-22T17:29:42.439-05:00Not that anyone will see this because I'm so l...Not that anyone will see this because I'm so late to the game but Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush were billed together in the credits for "The King's Speech" so they should not be nominated as part of the cast. Just saying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-65665474661198561882010-12-17T13:56:59.754-05:002010-12-17T13:56:59.754-05:00And when the movie came out in October and Aaron S...And when the movie came out in October and Aaron Sorkin was doing all this publicity, he was talking about how Facebook was created because of sexism and the objectification of women. And Colbert countered by asking him why he's doing the same thing in this script. And he's got nothing to say. Nothing! Hilarious!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-84576340296091814512010-12-17T07:57:13.653-05:002010-12-17T07:57:13.653-05:00Bryan - right? it's almost self-flagellating a...Bryan - right? it's almost self-flagellating about it. haha. hit me again. i'm a dirty chauvinist.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-72007174679085809172010-12-17T04:40:07.858-05:002010-12-17T04:40:07.858-05:00The Social Network sure knows how to brush off acc...The Social Network sure knows how to brush off accusations of sexism...Bryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-54858750243527430662010-12-17T02:08:01.882-05:002010-12-17T02:08:01.882-05:00Every year there is uproar and discussion about fi...Every year there is uproar and discussion about films being nominated for Best Ensemble that don't have ensemble casts. But the award <b>isn't</b> "Best Ensemble," it's "Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture." <i>Black Swan</i> is as appropriate a nominee as any other. Even <i>127 Hours</i> could be nominated, come to think of it.Paul Outlawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223551781533342142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-69683901373636493542010-12-17T02:07:33.710-05:002010-12-17T02:07:33.710-05:00I laughed so much when Jacki Weaver didn't get...I laughed so much when Jacki Weaver didn't get a nomination - the Australian news reporters here said the word 'snub' like it was something diseased! "She was SNUBBED!!!" Hahaha, ahhh well :)Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00175638828147935702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-2904659590303340102010-12-17T00:45:12.928-05:002010-12-17T00:45:12.928-05:00Also on a side note for whoever mentioned this rul...Also on a side note for whoever mentioned this rule likely being instated after Chicago's win... you're completely wrong. All of the Cell Block Tango girls get their own title card, they were strictly following the rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-33266697886700268532010-12-17T00:42:13.095-05:002010-12-17T00:42:13.095-05:00That is such a bizarre rule for them not to make e...That is such a bizarre rule for them not to make exceptions. I mean the credits for Return of the King were for the entire series so they had Sean Bean in them so he got an "Actor" without even appearing in the film! (maybe in a flashback that was already seen in Fellowship)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-37994209282240506512010-12-17T00:11:03.657-05:002010-12-17T00:11:03.657-05:00if your agent can't get you single billing, yo...<i>if your agent can't get you single billing, you can't be nominated.</i><br /><br />It just sucks. All those hard work gone to waste. The Social Network was great! I give Black Swan a shake in the head, though.Angelhttp://thebizthoughts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19523528450471960132010-12-16T23:51:19.644-05:002010-12-16T23:51:19.644-05:00John T -- i hadn't even thought of that. woody...John T -- i hadn't even thought of that. woody allen actors never get single title cards. they're always listed together alphabetically. so i guess SAG would have to just say the "first title card" which usually has the top ten or so players on it and omit the "also starring..." title cardsNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-48563951212827752182010-12-16T21:26:05.028-05:002010-12-16T21:26:05.028-05:00How is it that the actor's union can come up w...How is it that the actor's union can come up with such a stupid rule that celebrates the big names and handicaps upstarts and bit players? Ugh. <br /><br />Yaya was one of the very best parts of <i>Kids</i>, too. Ugh. And Rooney? The entire movie's plot is set in motion because of here! She's an integral as the Winkelvi.<br /><br />Still, nothing here is as ridiculous as when <i>Million Dollar Baby</i> got nominated for it's "ensemble" yet left out the actors that actually make ensemble like the black boxer, the priest and Swank's family.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-79119042650386800192010-12-16T21:02:53.421-05:002010-12-16T21:02:53.421-05:00And here I was thinking no one cared that the runn...And here I was thinking no one cared that the runner-up from America's Next Top Model cycle 3 transformed herself into a rather solid actor. I knew when I saw an advanced preview of <i>Take the Lead</i> (nee <i>Dance with Me</i> as it was called when I saw it), the only actor to walk out of the film not looking like a fool had a future in the film industry. Good looking out for Yaya. She appreciates all the respeito (always pronounced "HAY-SPAY-TOO," all caps intentional) she can get.OtherRoberthttp://sketchydetails.tknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26987920976618002532010-12-16T18:53:05.431-05:002010-12-16T18:53:05.431-05:00I do find Rashida Jones's lack of a title card...I do find Rashida Jones's lack of a title card surprising. I guess they wanted to highlight the actors who played the Facebook-related kids and everyone else was relegated to sharing cards. They're nice groupings of cast members if not altogether fair for this purpose.<br />--------------<br />Without Brenda Song's character, Sean Parker wouldn't have been introduced therefore the Facebook drama and lawsuits would not have began so your explanation is far from the truth.<br /><br />Brenda Song's character Christy Lee is the direct link which through her, a meeting between Sean Parker and Zuckerberg was arranged. Brenda Song's character Christy Lee introduced Justin Timberlake's Sean Parker hence the beginning of the drama and lawsuits.<br /><br />Furthermore, Armie Hammer is credited as the portrayer of both of the Winklevoss twins, Tyler AND Camerone. So it still doesn't make sense why Armie Hammer's body double (who does not act in the movie or even utter one syllable), received a SAG Award nomination, while Song doesn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-20130741363915078482010-12-16T18:46:58.095-05:002010-12-16T18:46:58.095-05:00The Brenda Song snub is absolutely ridiculous, Jos...The Brenda Song snub is absolutely ridiculous, Josh Pence does NOT act in the film, his body was the only thing he contributed to the film.<br /><br />Josh isn't famous, Brenda Song is. Hell, Brenda Song is the most famous person out of all of the people that were snubbed (type brenda song, rooney mara or brenda song, rashida jones on google trends and see the huge tremendous difference). How on earth did the agent of a non-famous actor receive his own single-billed title card while the agent of a famous actress not?<br /><br />In addition to that, Brenda Song is billed above Josh Pence so how come she didn't get her own title card??? Can someone please explain this part to me? Brenda is billed directly below Max Mingilla, she is billed sixth.<br /><br />NI am more than angered and disappointed. A lot of critics liked her performance, Aaron Sorkin praised her for her performance, she is the most prominent female character in the movie, has a big part and is definitely part of the cast ensemble while Josh Pence ISN'T.<br /><br />The Social Network's official website lists Song as part of the cast (ensemble). Sony/Columbia obviously realized this before submitting the names.<br /><br />In addition, I do not understand how Rashida Jones couldn't get her own title card, she is famous.<br /><br />Rooney Mara will soon individually cover W Magazine, she is the February 2011 covergirl. So I doubt her agent couldn't get her own single-billed title card.<br /><br />This is unbelievable and completely unacceptable. Why is Brenda Song's manager/team and agent letting them get away with this? this is discrimination. <br /><br />I think people should stop giving us this 'single billed title card excuse' because Brenda Song is billed above Josh Pence in The Social Network, she is billed 6th, Rooney Mara is billed 7thn while Rashida Jones is billed underneath the top 7 (the cast ensemble, the cast ensemble listed on The Social Network's official website and Sonny's press releases about the movie).<br /><br />Basically, the single-billed title cards thing seems like a lie.<br /><br />Josh Pence didn't even say ONE WORD in The Social Network, he DID NOT ACT in The Social Network. He DID NOT perform anything, why is he nominated for the best ensemble of 2010 award? Beyond ridiculous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-20786657125833982602010-12-16T18:40:35.936-05:002010-12-16T18:40:35.936-05:00If we're playing the "Worst Ensemble Nomi...If we're playing the "Worst Ensemble Nomination Oversight" game, I pick Million Dollar Baby, where only Eastwood, Swank and Freeman were nominated...<br /><br />Apparently Margo Martindale, Jay Baruchel, Anthony Mackie, Bryan F. O'Byrne and others made absolutely zero contribution to that film...<br /><br />Anyway, The ensemble rules need to change... and for my money, the SAG committee needs to be reminded that the award is Best Ensemble Cast not Best Picture. I LOVE Black Swan but its not an ensemble film by any means.<br /><br />Also Inception snub (after Dark Knight ensomble snub) cements in my mind that fanboys, critics, producers, directors, craft and tech people like Nolan's work... But for some reason, actors don't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-87233393192852246232010-12-16T16:13:43.625-05:002010-12-16T16:13:43.625-05:00I've always been frustrated when they've l...I've always been frustrated when they've left off certain actors from the SAG ensemble roster. <br /><br />I remember 2004, the year of <i>Sideways</i>...how was Marylouise Burke not on that list? Ridiculous...It's such a double punch in the face because they're omitting people who likely won't get any other recognition for their work in that film.<br /><br />And yes, Yaya's line readings were lovely "I'd use it!" Love her.The Pretentious Know it Allhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13279181033628364368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-71103664903263182912010-12-16T16:13:42.375-05:002010-12-16T16:13:42.375-05:00The real question would be how they would handle a...The real question would be how they would handle a Woody Allen film (god, wouldn't it be marvelous if Woody made another film good enough to be in the awards for a Best Cast category?). Aren't all of his actors all listed on the same title card?John Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778817752411507792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-20607711272533604992010-12-16T15:48:45.311-05:002010-12-16T15:48:45.311-05:00Well said Nathaniel!
I was the first to complain ...Well said Nathaniel! <br />I was the first to complain in the other post. The female snubs in The Social Network are totally disappointing. They did the same last year with Cara Seymour in An Education!<br />Wish they would reconsider...Peggy Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-44049411760022920242010-12-16T15:29:22.313-05:002010-12-16T15:29:22.313-05:00Mickey O'Keefe is the cop/gym owner in THE FIG...Mickey O'Keefe is the cop/gym owner in THE FIGHTER. The actor AND the character - he's playing himself!Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-23425010983910261042010-12-16T15:24:58.298-05:002010-12-16T15:24:58.298-05:00Thanks for the "explanation" (however lu...Thanks for the "explanation" (however ludicrous it is) about The Social Network ensemble nomination. I've been questioning it since I saw the list this morning. I totally agree that it's shocking that Josh Pence has his own title card. Really an egregious oversight and a rather silly rule (although there's part of me that understands the need to have some type of arbitrary rule to prevent everyone from these films getting in...but, like you said in your post, Gwen Stefani got a nod here for her bit cameo in The Aviator).Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16126493031421822053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-75933590174122889462010-12-16T15:11:23.099-05:002010-12-16T15:11:23.099-05:00I do find Rashida Jones's lack of a title card...I do find Rashida Jones's lack of a title card surprising. I guess they wanted to highlight the actors who played the Facebook-related kids and everyone else was relegated to sharing cards. They're nice groupings of cast members if not altogether fair for this purpose.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16410467377205923098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-9956048037902406372010-12-16T15:05:00.632-05:002010-12-16T15:05:00.632-05:00Evan -- the point is that there is something from ...Evan -- the point is that there is something from each of the nominated films that's a bit of an eyebrowe raiser with Black Swan and The King's Speech being the closest to "complete" in terms of rewarding the entire ensemble. sure you can argue that black swan does that but that ruins the beautiful symmetry of the article ;)<br /><br />Nothing against Josh Pence but I'm still confused about how he got his own title card. If it's a contractual hierarchal thing how did Rashida Jones for example, who is famous, not get her own?NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-76025146412251608312010-12-16T14:51:26.934-05:002010-12-16T14:51:26.934-05:00I think the title card rule was their more recent ...I think the title card rule was their more recent answer to having to give statues to a cast of thousands (remember when CHICAGO won the award and all those Cell Block Tango dancers were listed and thus were up on the stage when they won).<br /><br />The rules should allow producers to be responsible for submitting up to 7-8 actors (or however many SAG determmines appropriate)for the film up for nomination.Bradynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-46574425566451276572010-12-16T14:38:12.726-05:002010-12-16T14:38:12.726-05:00Separate billing for The Social Network in the tit...Separate billing for The Social Network in the title sequence:<br /><br />Jesse Eisenberg<br />Andrew Garfield<br />Justin Timberlake<br />Armie Hammer<br />Max Minghella<br />Josh Pence<br /><br />*Brenda Song and Rashida Jones are then together<br />*Then John Getz, David Selby,Denise Grayson<br />*Finally Douglas Urbanski and Rooney Mara<br /><br />So SAG followed the rule and whoever decided those idiotic title cards is to blame.<br /><br />ABSURDDeannoreply@blogger.com