tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post7661999257974698029..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Eastern Promises (and other new movies)NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-35015242873414738802007-09-24T10:39:00.000-04:002007-09-24T10:39:00.000-04:00Steven Knight's screenplay is the weakest part of ...Steven Knight's screenplay is the weakest part of the film. With a stronger screenplay and a better ending, this film could have been a great one. As it stands, it's a good enough film elevated by an outstanding lead and great direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-82114987555680503402007-09-23T03:25:00.000-04:002007-09-23T03:25:00.000-04:00Boyd, I did. I always confuse Neil Jordan and Step...Boyd, I did. I always confuse Neil Jordan and Stephen Frears. <BR/><BR/>A 71% score on RT mearly means that 29% don't think it's much cop and considering the film in question was destined to be a love/hate sort of film a score of 71 is pretty darn good.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-74857180800269053982007-09-22T22:05:00.000-04:002007-09-22T22:05:00.000-04:00"Jesse James has a 71% on RT. I thought people wer..."Jesse James has a 71% on RT. I thought people were calling this a masterpiece?"<BR/><BR/>Yeah...that's been perplexing me too. I think it looks like it could be but...these reviews are so out of synch with even the buzz from the festivals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-9217012577497586392007-09-22T10:53:00.000-04:002007-09-22T10:53:00.000-04:00I agree with Nathaniel that the last fifteen minut...I agree with Nathaniel that the last fifteen minutes or so of Eastern Promises leaves you wanting a bit more. Shouldn't there have been a scene with the father? And more Viggo would have welcome.<BR/><BR/>I thought the cast was fine though I wasn't entirely sure about the casting of Vincent Cassel. But then I think the problem with his role might have been some of the writing, not the acting.<BR/><BR/>I do agree that Knight's contribution to the film has been overlooked. Some of the weirdness of the film and interesting ethnic twists definitely come from Knight's imagination, if you've seen Dirty Pretty Things.<BR/><BR/>Naomi Watts continues to have an impressive career. I may have to watch The Ring because I like her so much.gabrieloakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00460263240309976652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-65392473657001367982007-09-22T06:52:00.000-04:002007-09-22T06:52:00.000-04:00The screenplay, Jordan's direction...Oops! Surely ...<I>The screenplay, Jordan's direction...</I><BR/><BR/>Oops! Surely you mean Frears's direction??Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911661238937757140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-85588415809556699062007-09-22T04:57:00.000-04:002007-09-22T04:57:00.000-04:00Agreed with Adam about Dirty Pretty Things. At fir...Agreed with Adam about <I>Dirty Pretty Things</I>. At first I was a bit blase about it but since then it has really firmed in my find. The screenplay, Jordan's direction, the performance of Chiwetel Ejiofor, Audrey Tautou and Sophie Okenedo are all fantastic. In looking back Stephen Knight's nomination was so deserved. It's a thriller masked as a drama masked as an issue film masked as a thriller. If that makes sense. I need to watch it again.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-90254211448301616812007-09-22T01:27:00.000-04:002007-09-22T01:27:00.000-04:00Just got out of the film about half an hour ago, '...Just got out of the film about half an hour ago, 'Promises' that is. Good film, *** stars in all. I took issue with how the piece ended (far too abruptly, in my humble opinion) and the twist was a little too... convenient. I don't know, I'm not Cronenberg, but it rang false for me. Such is life.Beauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12330740987516007108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32755079610662452052007-09-22T00:19:00.000-04:002007-09-22T00:19:00.000-04:00Dirty Pretty Things was very good, Nat, largely be...<EM>Dirty Pretty Things</EM> was very good, Nat, largely because of the screenplay. I highly recommend you check it out.adam k.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13485604493059621307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-25785235408095662382007-09-21T23:33:00.000-04:002007-09-21T23:33:00.000-04:00Don't read this if you didn't see the movie and pl...Don't read this if you didn't see the movie and plan to.<BR/><BR/>I like <I>Eastern Promises</I> a lot, but it definitely breaks a cardinal rule by withholding information a character knows just to create false suspense. Nikolai's secret isn't so much a twist as it is a "what the fuck?" moment.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06800396931252225965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-57527503422840996112007-09-21T21:46:00.000-04:002007-09-21T21:46:00.000-04:00What? You don't think "The Jane Austen Book Club"...What? You don't think "The Jane Austen Book Club" has Oscar writ large on every celluloid frame? <BR/><BR/>Really, though, I liked the trailer and expect it to be on my 'guilty pleasures' list this year. After all, movies <I>are</I> allowed to just be fun on occasion, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-58691424721890683012007-09-21T18:54:00.000-04:002007-09-21T18:54:00.000-04:00I love Naomi and I realize she's not the center of...I love Naomi and I realize she's not the center of the movie at all, but I'm glad you had no qualms with her. At least, I think that's what I'm seeing...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-61914819284522271922007-09-21T18:46:00.000-04:002007-09-21T18:46:00.000-04:00i have not seen dirty pretty things but in all hon...i have not seen <I>dirty pretty things</I> but in all honesty I thought the script and direction were a smidgeon less tight than they shoulda been --it's one of those rare movies where I actually felt it could have been longer and a bit more fleshed out or shorter with some characters cut... but these are minor quibbles <BR/><BR/>the centerpiece 10-15 minutes is just <B>A</B> range stuff and Viggo is freaking great.<BR/><BR/>I was neither here nor there on most of the other performances... they all served the movie well but I'm not sure I would call anyone outside of Viggo particularly great .<BR/><BR/>Cassel has moments for sure but his accent wasn't as convincing.<BR/><BR/>I shan't speak about Naomi Watts because that always gets me into trouble ;) no, she was fine. Her best work since <I>Mulholland Dr</I> is still <I>The Painted Veil</I> --too bad they screwed up that release.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-83848304875438100162007-09-21T18:02:00.000-04:002007-09-21T18:02:00.000-04:00Speaking of candidates for the director/muse panth...Speaking of candidates for the director/muse pantheon, don't forget Roger Corman/Vincent Price.C. Jerry Kutnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10901663264449536920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-34885877964634027692007-09-21T14:59:00.000-04:002007-09-21T14:59:00.000-04:00Finally wrote my review here. I'm sure Nat will ha...Finally wrote my review <A HREF="http://nhmehta.blogspot.com/2007/09/graffik.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure Nat will have his own take on the performances, but I thought it was a pretty strong ensemble. I didn't think anyone was miscast or left a sour note, though my viewing companion thought someone else should have played the Naomi Watts role.<BR/><BR/>It's not as if many of the characters have multiple layers -- you pretty much make up your mind about them in their first scenes, and nothing happens later that will change your mind. Nothing wrong with that in a 100-minute movie that's more concerned with story and atmosphere.Neel Mehtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286549029037039134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-39749924656267121642007-09-21T11:57:00.000-04:002007-09-21T11:57:00.000-04:00Jesse James has a 71% on RT. I thought people were...Jesse James has a 71% on RT. I thought people were calling this a masterpiece?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-66099135199401329872007-09-21T11:50:00.000-04:002007-09-21T11:50:00.000-04:00Eastern Promises looks brutal and honest. Can't wa...Eastern Promises looks brutal and honest. Can't wait!<BR/><BR/>I'm also really looking forward to "Into the Wild" because the subject matter just seems so inspiring.<BR/><BR/>www.therecshow.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-43006580546578469082007-09-21T11:15:00.000-04:002007-09-21T11:15:00.000-04:00What did you think of the other performances in th...What did you think of the other performances in this movie? I'm seeing it on Sunday and I can't wait!<BR/><BR/>JoshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-81153387974116524192007-09-21T10:19:00.000-04:002007-09-21T10:19:00.000-04:00Good review. I saw Eastern Promises last night and...Good review. I saw <I>Eastern Promises</I> last night and haven't quite figured out what to say about it yet.<BR/><BR/>KC: Curiously, Knight has been left out of the buzz, hasn't he? Despite the obvious (and justified) comparison to <I>A History of Violence</I>, this is also a fair companion piece to <I>Dirty Pretty Things</I>. Naomi Watts' character, for example, might have easily shifted from one movie to the other.Neel Mehtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286549029037039134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32074158107579087722007-09-21T09:40:00.000-04:002007-09-21T09:40:00.000-04:00Have you seen Dirty Pretty Things, which had the s...Have you seen <I>Dirty Pretty Things</I>, which had the same writer (Stephen Knight). I obviously haven't seen <I>Eastern Promises</I>, but I would beg to query whether Knight's involvement had something significent to do with the quality and not just Cronenberg and Mortensen. <I>Dirty</I> was also set in the international subcultures of London and such.Glenn Dunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424659636310160482noreply@blogger.com