tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post7861396179288369031..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: Broadcast Film Critics: Black Swan Shows True GritNATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-31142096831602859792010-12-14T18:19:32.769-05:002010-12-14T18:19:32.769-05:00Re your comment about AMPAS discarding ballots aft...Re your comment about AMPAS discarding ballots after calculating #1, this is not the full story.<br />There is the "Surplus rule" where if a film gets 20% more than it needs for a nomination then the<br />votes are proportioned according to following preferences. So if The Social Network gets twice as<br />many #1 votes as required for a nomination (the quota is about 9% for 10 nominations) then they will proportion second and maybe later votes. So a vote for 1=Social Network 2=Animal Kingdom could count as 1/2 a vote for Social Network and 1/2 vote for Animal Kingdom. (Still one vote per voter but can be split across multiple nominees.)<br />Steve Pond at The Wrap did a fuller explanation of Oscar and Preferential voting last year but people who aren't into voting systems might have stopped reading before the surplus rule was mentioned.Vausnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-88939356931230646062010-12-14T01:07:03.323-05:002010-12-14T01:07:03.323-05:00I totally understand your anger - you feel like th...I totally understand your anger - you feel like the people voting, who are essentially telling the general public what good films are, vote like they have no sense, and just hop on the bandwagon half the time.Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-13068619103879678742010-12-13T21:33:34.971-05:002010-12-13T21:33:34.971-05:00Rabbit Hole needs to be released as soon as it can...Rabbit Hole needs to be released as soon as it can to get the attention back to Nicole Kidman because she is soooo gooood in it. Too bad Aaron Eckhart is not in the mix at all.<br /><br />Is Julianne Moore’s performance really that forgettable? C’mon, she was just as good as her “the so called frontrunner” co-star.<br /><br />I think that the Fish Tank’s Katie Jarvis and Animal Kingdom’s James Frecheville are worth the nomination for best young star.<br /><br />animal kingdom actually deserves best ensemble cast than the king’s speech which just features 3 people communicate again and again.mike thttp://aneducation.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-92072775159674658712010-12-13T20:07:18.300-05:002010-12-13T20:07:18.300-05:00Rebecca -- oh trust me. I KNOW. He was so fascinat...Rebecca -- oh trust me. I KNOW. He was so fascinating to hear speak last year when i went to this event for him at Nashville. So so smart. Smartest composer i've ever listened to other than alexandre desplat. they're both so amazing.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-76401063246485622382010-12-13T19:26:18.127-05:002010-12-13T19:26:18.127-05:00In other Black Swan news, well sort of. This is pe...In other Black Swan news, well sort of. This is perhaps the best trailer ever made:)<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4u6oW63KoJasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-11101937717978804522010-12-13T16:05:59.530-05:002010-12-13T16:05:59.530-05:00The Foreign Film category is a joke. I'm prett...The Foreign Film category is a joke. I'm pretty sure these are the only foreign films they have seen in the whole year.Peggy Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-73873777455748761932010-12-13T14:51:04.265-05:002010-12-13T14:51:04.265-05:00I'm always shocked when I'm reminded that ...I'm always shocked when I'm reminded that Carter Burwell has never been nominated for Oscar. Seriously, you could mention that fact to me again tomorrow and I would be surprised again.Rebeccahttp://fffblog.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-8283726744222567452010-12-13T13:53:23.902-05:002010-12-13T13:53:23.902-05:00james -- according to the BFCA themselves, it'...james -- according to the BFCA themselves, it's Kidman's 7th. so not sure which movie is the disconnect. and i'd imagine you're right about hte black swan enthsuiasm. it's also a matter of timing. The BFCA was voting during the absolutely insane first wave of Black Swan mania.<br /><br />anon -- i thought Hailee was good in a difficult part but it's TOTALLY a lead role (like Portman sized lead role rather than Bening sized lead role cuz she's never offscreen) and she's not one of the 5 best leads of the year ;)NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19532238280300401312010-12-13T13:47:40.923-05:002010-12-13T13:47:40.923-05:00hey nathaniel, how did you think hailey steinfield...hey nathaniel, how did you think hailey steinfield is in true grit? im surprised how many nominations the movie got, since no one seems interested in western movies anymore, and honestly seems pretty boring compared to most CB movies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-45510344105550325562010-12-13T13:25:15.234-05:002010-12-13T13:25:15.234-05:00According to imdb this is Kidman's sixth BFCA ...According to imdb this is Kidman's sixth BFCA and it might (read: will) be her 8th golden globe nod.<br /><br />I'd like to say one think. Though i do agree that the BFCA seem (or do) to try to predict the Oscars, i'm not sure they (or anyone) believe Black Swan will be that big so i guess this is a case where (when?) they really feel strongly about a movie.James Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16055933146552583102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-32827581807493154622010-12-13T12:59:47.374-05:002010-12-13T12:59:47.374-05:00well. we'll see THE GLOBES are tomorrow and SA...well. we'll see THE GLOBES are tomorrow and SAG is later this week so there is still room for things not to be set in stone.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-5785101199608574952010-12-13T12:44:25.293-05:002010-12-13T12:44:25.293-05:00Seems lesley manville's buzz came and went wit...Seems lesley manville's buzz came and went with cannes,i feel michelle williams will fill that 5th spot and maybe ryan gosling over duvall or bridges,supp actress is locked i think minus kunis,supp actor garfield,rush and bale loced then the 3 r's renner,rockwell & ruffalo.MRRIPLEYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-52335694545976258832010-12-13T12:21:57.968-05:002010-12-13T12:21:57.968-05:00the pretentious -- i think it's like what Todd...the pretentious -- i think it's like what Todd Haynes said around the time of i'm not there... he figured that the culture eventually comes around to you rather than you having to come around to the culture or whatnot. And that's definitely true with the visionaries. <br /><br />The lucky ones see this happen while they're still vital but some people have to wait until they're dead.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-67348064275266143502010-12-13T12:19:20.981-05:002010-12-13T12:19:20.981-05:00The broad support for Black Swan and Aronofsky is ...The broad support for <i>Black Swan</i> and Aronofsky is so pleasantly surprising to me. If someone had told me, even a month ago that <i>Black Swan</i> would be our nominations leader at the BFCA, I would have referred him or her to the nearest shrink. I'm just as surprised as I was by the awards body reaction to <i>There Will Be Blood</i> three years ago. Spectacular film, visionary director, but awards season has never embraced his work in a major way before, so no reason to think they'll do it this time...and then they do. Good for Aronofsky for not having to make himself more "accessible" to get there (knock on wood).The Pretentious Know it Allhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13279181033628364368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-54185416440611934542010-12-13T12:04:02.305-05:002010-12-13T12:04:02.305-05:00If the Academy nominated Penelope Cruz in Nine the...If the Academy nominated Penelope Cruz in Nine then they could definitely nominate Mila Kunis. A performance based on sex appeal seems to fine with them. <br /><br />The Noomi Rapace thing is beyond comprehension to me. There is just nothing in that performance that deserves recognition. It's straight out of the Kristen Stewart handbook of how to act like you don't want to really be in your own damn movie.Deannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26978323084269749842010-12-13T12:03:58.101-05:002010-12-13T12:03:58.101-05:00Off Topic: Nat, on the escalating thread earlier I...Off Topic: Nat, on the escalating thread earlier I have some moral issues with There Will Be Blood, but it's still minor and I always thought of it as vital and energetic movie. (But, still, I can't watch another PT Anderson. Sorry. The bile in my mouth says: NO!)<br /><br />Rank of moral issues:<br /><br />Racism<br />Homophobia<br />Sexism<br />Anti-Intellectualism (first four issues are the big 4 (can't get above a B with extreme amounts of any of those.)<br />Dogmatic viewpoints (Not above a B+ at the most extreme.)<br />Ageism (not above an A- at the most extreme.)<br />Aphobia (Stops at an A. Can't quite give an A+ to such material, now can I? (Yes I do consider fear of my own orientation a lesser sin than fear of yours, Nat. Why? Figure it out yourself.)Volvagianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-84173837053950349922010-12-13T11:35:39.755-05:002010-12-13T11:35:39.755-05:00I still think Javier Bardem is not entirely out of...I still think Javier Bardem is not entirely out of the race...Clovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-91522049723095403212010-12-13T11:32:26.287-05:002010-12-13T11:32:26.287-05:00Ashley -- that's undoubtedly true. But it came...Ashley -- that's undoubtedly true. But it came down to which films got released basically. I mean Biutiful and Frankie & Alice were almost like afterthoughts in terms of distribution. That's no way to run Oscar campaigns.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-3772303449302287572010-12-13T11:05:59.830-05:002010-12-13T11:05:59.830-05:00I think it's safe to say that this will be the...I think it's safe to say that this will be the least diverse awards season in a long time. No Halle, no Javier, and almost all of the best picture nominees have little or no people of color in them.Ashleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-18461359261756685082010-12-13T11:04:33.018-05:002010-12-13T11:04:33.018-05:00I still find it dissapointing that we're going...I still find it dissapointing that we're going to see such pedestrian work by Tom Hooper get rewarded with a Best Director nom, I mean by all means, nominate it for Best Picture...but I can easily think of 6,7, maybe even 8 directors this year that I'd nominate before Hooper. There really needs to be a rethinking of how the concept of Best Director is awarded.<br /><br />Also, it's too bad that Daft Punk's Tron score is attached to such an Awards unfriendly movie...it (along with Zimmer's, Reznor's, and Mansell's) was some of the best scoring work on a thematic and inventive level.Kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-69963654236210492162010-12-13T10:57:56.974-05:002010-12-13T10:57:56.974-05:00Nathaniel, I didn't mean to imply that you wer...Nathaniel, I didn't mean to imply that you were saying the part wasn't good acting. I was suggesting that the fun/sexy was one part of a very wide-reaching performance. It's an unusual kind of role to recognize, but it's also used in a pivotal way throughout the film.OtherRoberthttp://sketchydetails.tknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26568588491448398862010-12-13T10:46:27.276-05:002010-12-13T10:46:27.276-05:00Mike R -- i don't know. perhaps i should look ...Mike R -- i don't know. perhaps i should look at the rules more closely. I prefer Oscar's static 5 no matter what. I think all awards groups ought to have very specific rules about tiebreakers and nominee fields and such. for consistencies sake.<br /><br />OtherRobert & Ed -- i didn't mean to imply that no, that only "heavy emoting" means great acting. And you both know that about me if you follow the blog. But I guess I just don't see how it's "best" but again, i really like the performance and the movie. But i am absolutely certain that her sexiness is winning her votes ;)<br /><br />Jeff -- i thought Elle was really good in SOMEWHERE but it's a very low key performance and I know it wouldn't have been here if the movie hadn't been a Decembre release and she weren't already famous is what i'm saying.<br /><br />John --okay, their press release is confusing. I shall amend.<br /><br />Ryan T -- the Scott Pilgrim snubs are to me the most embarrassing. Not because the movie is a masterpiece, but because there are very specific categories to which it should have had an iron lock. Best visual effects and best comedy. <br /><br />I realize that maybe i shouldn't get as angry about awards as I often do but I just don't understand ANY notion of Alice in Wonderland having great effects when they looked so fake, so muddy, and were so obtrusive to the eye... so much going on that it was just like one big CGI gaseous swirl. blech. Give me the clean, witty, aesthetically styled f/x of Scott Pilgrim any day of any week of any year over Wonderland.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-11111800330004383362010-12-13T10:38:46.007-05:002010-12-13T10:38:46.007-05:00do they have some kind of minimum vote system? Be...do they have some kind of minimum vote system? Because how many they nominate for each award seems to change year to year...Mike R.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-64046558120895382982010-12-13T10:37:45.087-05:002010-12-13T10:37:45.087-05:00Totally agreed with OtherRobert re: Mila Kunis. I ...Totally agreed with OtherRobert re: Mila Kunis. I think it's somewhat silly to say that fun and sexy can't <i>also</i> be great acting, which implies — as I'm sure you didn't mean to — that only heavy emoting is worthy of acclaim. She's just so much fun to watch in this film, so expressive, and I thought it was an utterly delightful performance. It was important for that character to be the opposite of Portman's repressed, inward-looking girl-child, and Kunis clearly has a lot of fun embodying carnality and <i>joie de vivre</i>. It would be a much lesser film without her.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-31827300354978440272010-12-13T10:35:58.313-05:002010-12-13T10:35:58.313-05:00The Scott Pilgrim snub is a little annoying. I kno...The Scott Pilgrim snub is a little annoying. I know they're all about predicting Oscars and SP isn't going to be lighting the nomination tally, but COME ON. They gave it an solid 80 rating (though their ratings mean less than nothing most of the times) and they couldn't have given it a token nod in any of the tech awards? Supremely lame.Ryan T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11249768784800120083noreply@blogger.com