tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post8582052775470489815..comments2024-03-17T10:11:46.952-04:00Comments on Film Experience Blog: 1000 Greatest Films?NATHANIEL Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-63878981758868964282010-07-20T23:50:31.525-04:002010-07-20T23:50:31.525-04:00What a moronic intro. Spielberg deserves to be the...What a moronic intro. Spielberg deserves to be the most repsented director and there is a reason why he ussually and rightfully is. I could fill the first 100 with his films alone.<br /><br />There's nothing wrong with acknowledging a genius when he deserves it. Goddard and the rest on the other hand, with over a dozen entries is a joke.<br /><br /><br />Ford may have the most directing Oscars for now, but none of his winning works ever been nominated for a DGA award. The director's guild records for most wins and nominations rightfully belong to Spielberg.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10924819148194075028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-60918422576352911152009-07-10T10:53:00.582-04:002009-07-10T10:53:00.582-04:00Absolutely worthless? Where's Spielberg?
And ...Absolutely worthless? Where's Spielberg?<br /><br />And 14? FOURTEEN MOVIES by Goddard. Pretentious load of crap.Promannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26996545208243639752008-12-24T11:54:00.000-05:002008-12-24T11:54:00.000-05:00I have yet to look through the list because I have...I have yet to look through the list because I have to do one thing first. I must heap praise and thanks upon you for presenting the list to me. I will have many hours of fun with this. This is a nice site you have here, by the way. I'm curious to see which Spike Lee film they have in their list, and which ones you think they should have added. I'm not a big fan of his. As a film major myself, I too have to admit, shamefully, that there are a couple films in their top 20 that I have not seen. I know, I know. Shame on me. Thanks for the list though, and your blog is definitely a good read.<BR/><BR/>http://www.whysocynical.blogspot.comDTownz Finesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12134381349776534145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-62297585199151535702008-12-23T10:44:00.000-05:002008-12-23T10:44:00.000-05:00Have seen all the movies on the top portion of tha...Have seen all the movies on the top portion of that list except the two you said I should rent immediately...so...they're in my Netlflix queue! I totally agree about the last quarter century bias in these lists. This one has a lot more for me to add. (But "Fargo" should be way higher.)Scene-Stealershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648906135191982157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-87736811068419679192008-12-22T21:41:00.000-05:002008-12-22T21:41:00.000-05:00I'm all for new generations of film critics but I ...I'm all for new generations of film critics but I do worry. About. The modern tendency to assume old means disposable. There's dangers in limited thinking in both directions of courseNATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-58577597054179665612008-12-22T20:47:00.000-05:002008-12-22T20:47:00.000-05:00The Passion of Joan of Arc was one of the most jaw...The Passion of Joan of Arc was one of the most jaw-dropping film experiences I've ever had. I have the Criterion Collection edition.Eric Arvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003380162258465067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-26157550053563462322008-12-22T20:11:00.000-05:002008-12-22T20:11:00.000-05:00JP,Yes, if anyone is still reading this thread, Bo...JP,<BR/>Yes, if anyone is still reading this thread, Boyz in the Hood def. should be on here.<BR/>Charles, as someone mentioned upthread, the way the voting goes tends to privilege older films, but if you look at the PDF file about ways they tally voting, and you're in favor of post 1980 films, there is a lot to be hopeful for. For example, 0% of established critics ranked Die-Hard (or Eraserhead for that mater) on their top lists, but something like 50% of emerging or new critics did. Looking at the ranking in general across generations of critics, you notice a greater appreciation of newer movies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-4805425130138474372008-12-22T19:39:00.000-05:002008-12-22T19:39:00.000-05:00If anyone's stil reading this post - here are a fe...If anyone's stil reading this post - here are a few more that I'm surprised didn't make the list:<BR/><BR/>Quiz Show<BR/>Traffic<BR/>Broadcast News<BR/>Adaptation<BR/>Election<BR/>Boyz N The Hood<BR/>Cool Hand Luke<BR/>Big<BR/>Sex, Lies, and VideotapeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-82398596217743410452008-12-22T07:04:00.000-05:002008-12-22T07:04:00.000-05:00TGIII seems to be the biggest shock for me, but I'...TGIII seems to be the biggest shock for me, but I'm going to need days to sort through this list.<BR/><BR/>The thing about EW is that, once upon a time, they did make a great list of the 100 Greatest Movies-nowadays, they wouldn't be caught dead shoving Wings of Desire or Celine and Julie Go Boating on a list of the 100 Greatest (not when you can put Tropic Thunder on instead).<BR/><BR/>Oh, and Nat-the limit of movies on the Netflix queue is 500.John Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778817752411507792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-70095837833295427302008-12-22T00:10:00.000-05:002008-12-22T00:10:00.000-05:00christine, i know fellowship is there I meant the ...christine, i know fellowship is there I meant the whole trilogy. Also, I know the films after the 1980's are there what I was complaining about was their placement. The majority of them are thrown towards the bottom of the list as if they cant be compared to the other films.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-69367239731527501032008-12-21T23:34:00.000-05:002008-12-21T23:34:00.000-05:00Well, I think Billy Wilder is underrepresented on ...Well, I think Billy Wilder is underrepresented on this list, but I'll always think that about any list probably. I am glad to see <B>The Apartment</B> just outside the top 50. But <B>Ace in the Hole</B> is one of Wilder's finest achievements, and it's more than 500 places back from his other greatest works. And where's <B>The Lost Weekend</B>? Where's <B>Stalag 17</B>? Where's <B>Sabrina</B>? Where's <B>Witness for the Prosecution</B>?<BR/><BR/>I can't really pretend to have seen enough movies to fully judge this list, but I would've thought at least some of those movies would be among the 1000 greatest.<BR/><BR/>But, this list is definitely helpful for recommendations. I've already added about 10 movies to my blockbuster queue just from this post and the comments on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-29783967655797282362008-12-21T22:49:00.000-05:002008-12-21T22:49:00.000-05:00Hi Charles, LOTR is on the top 1000. Also, if you...Hi Charles, <BR/><BR/>LOTR is on the top 1000. Also, if you check the Excel spreadsheet, aprox. 230 films listed from the top 1000 are from 1980 are higher, making later films represent the top 25%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-19545061431956002882008-12-21T22:38:00.000-05:002008-12-21T22:38:00.000-05:00Here are eleven films that I think were overlooked...Here are eleven films that I think were overlooked:<BR/><BR/>The Seventh Victim<BR/>Even Dwarfs Started Small<BR/>The Draughtsman's Contract<BR/>Thieves Like Us<BR/>Love Me or Leave Me<BR/>The Testament of Doctor Mabuse<BR/>Pygmalion<BR/>Shampoo<BR/>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory<BR/>Odds Against Tomorrow<BR/>The Ladykillers (1955)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-51793585562989075892008-12-21T22:06:00.000-05:002008-12-21T22:06:00.000-05:00I agree that William Wyler tends to get overlooked...I agree that William Wyler tends to get overlooked in lists like this, but I don't think it's because he lacks a signature style. He shot Little Foxes in deep focus and used expressionist camera angles and lighting effects before Citizen Kane came out. When I watch Little Foxes or The Heiress, I notice that everything in the production is impeccable--the acting, the score, the lighting, the script. Maybe people find his elegance boring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-47659092918439919402008-12-21T21:29:00.000-05:002008-12-21T21:29:00.000-05:00I read through all of the comments and I hope i am...I read through all of the comments and I hope i am not making mistake but did no one else notice that Saving Private Ryan did not make this list!!! You are going to tell me Starship Troopers is better then Saving Private Ryan?! The top twenty is great...but as the list goes on there are just sooo many problems. And I agree with others who have posted that it is very elitist. Why can't anything that has been made recently be considered great? One film that comes to mind is City of God but there are many others that deserve to be higher on the list instead of just tacked on at the end. Also, how does the LOTR trilogy not get represented on a list of 1000 films?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-74792126573441117482008-12-21T20:26:00.000-05:002008-12-21T20:26:00.000-05:00Okay, I know someone already mentioned the omissio...Okay, I know someone already mentioned the omission of Jerry Maguire, but I just realized there is no Cameron Crowe on this list at all. I realize he may be a bit mainstream for this list, but, you would think there would be room for at least one of his films - if not Jerry Maguire, what about Say Anything or Almost Famous (or even Fast Times, for that matter)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-16145624337460573742008-12-21T19:58:00.000-05:002008-12-21T19:58:00.000-05:00This is a fantastic list! Of course, there are a ...This is a fantastic list! Of course, there are a few movies I'm surprised didn't make it (unless I somehow missed them).<BR/><BR/>Ed Wood<BR/>Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?<BR/>Platoon<BR/>The Insider<BR/>Coming HomeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-85668607932328798442008-12-21T19:38:00.000-05:002008-12-21T19:38:00.000-05:00I think one of the interesting things about this l...I think one of the interesting things about this list is it is trying to reconcile at least three definitions of greatest film. The first def. is the most important and revolutionary in terms of influencing later movies (Man With a Movie Camera; La Jetee); the second is films with a distinct auteur signature (Michael Powell, Stanley Kubrick); and the third is films that manage to unite different demographics, over several generations and become classics that way (Wizard of Oz, Jaws, The Princess Bride). Although I have issues with a lot of the individual choices, I think they do a nice job. overall of reconciling those three ideas of "great."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-41494567985299559282008-12-21T18:47:00.000-05:002008-12-21T18:47:00.000-05:00That's an awesome list and one of very few credibl...That's an awesome list and one of very few credible ones. I wholeheartedly support your L'Atalante and Passion of Joan of Arc plugs - they are both among my 5 favourite films ever (along with Third Man, Magnificent Ambersons and 8 1/2, each of which is also worth a look, hint hint). Also Dodsworth belongs in the Top 1000, perhaps even in the Top 100. In fact, if I were to make a complaint it would be that the 30s (and 40s!) are morbidly underrepresented.Y Kant Goran Ritehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03058411467996289416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-90950765388004814012008-12-21T18:40:00.000-05:002008-12-21T18:40:00.000-05:00Actually, a lot of Clint fans would rank Bridges a...Actually, a lot of Clint fans would rank Bridges as his finest film, so you'll have a lot of arguments there.<BR/><BR/> But your point about "important subject = great film" for critics is something worth reiterating. That's why I have to admit the approbation for Slumdog Millionaire (which I just came back from) is really quite satisfying. It's not an important biopic about one man's crusade for civil rights, or "the trial Nixon never got" or even a big budget analysis of the permutations of law and justice. It's just a little entertaining film that happens to be extremely well made and perfectly executed. The fact that it's doing so well is quite awesome, imo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-55171128491765449682008-12-21T16:09:00.000-05:002008-12-21T16:09:00.000-05:00in regards to that disagreement mentioned: it's cl...in regards to that disagreement mentioned: it's clear that some directors can fart and make the list... which is disappointing because all great directors have minor films...and if you're minor should you really be in the top 1000 of all time?<BR/><BR/>basically i'm horrified that BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY is on there when they skimped on some truly great romances<BR/><BR/>there's another list they have of the 7000+ films used to draw up this list but i'm a bit terrified about trying to parse that one.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-43174485690754857282008-12-21T16:05:00.000-05:002008-12-21T16:05:00.000-05:00now that i've had more time to study the list i ha...now that i've had more time to study the list i have more disagreements ;)<BR/><BR/>but there's a lot here i haven't seen so there's that too. is there a limit on how long your netflix rental queue can be?NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-73487011543818489812008-12-21T15:57:00.000-05:002008-12-21T15:57:00.000-05:00"Carrie" up 32 spots! Rightfully so!"Carrie" up 32 spots! Rightfully so!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-79057803252533295192008-12-21T14:56:00.000-05:002008-12-21T14:56:00.000-05:00arkaan -- you're right about dismissal. Even when ...<B>arkaan</B> -- you're right about dismissal. Even when critics like something it often gets dismissed when it comes time to label the greats of any given year. This is why i harp on subject matter not equalling greatness so often. It fools awards bodies every damn year. Every damn year!<BR/><BR/>I actually think it's the single most misleading factor in a movie's initial reception versus it's longevity.<BR/><BR/>I mean even take a populist example: THE PRINCESS BRIDE. Now it's considered a classic. Nobody cared other than the fact that they enjoyed themselves while watching it back in 1987. Films that are pure enjoyment often get the shaft during those time capsule awardage things because they don't feel "important"... think SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (1952) which easily makes every greatest films ever made list. It wasn't anywhere close to getting a Best Picture nomination in its year. <BR/><BR/>i mean i think it's HILARIOUS that people are naming <I>Frost/Nixon</I> (which is entertaining, sure) a better film than <I>Rachel Getting Married</I> or <I>The Wrestler</I> when they're filling out ballots. I mean that's just the example that popped into mind because even though I like F/N perfectly well (definitely one of Ron Howard's best films) it's totally lightweight -- people won't talk about it at all in 50 years (though obviously they'll still talk about Frost & Nixon. So therefore topic = greatness if the film is any good at all.<BR/><BR/><I>Rachel Getting Married, The Wrestler, WALL-E, The Dark Knight, Burn After Reading, Happy-Go-Lucky</I> etcetera... none of these have that IMPORTANT TOPIC pull or if they do they have some other factor (usually genre or female driven narrative) working against them. But it doesn't mean they lack for greatness.NATHANIEL Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597109147678235399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8256060.post-38490912719369695322008-12-21T14:07:00.000-05:002008-12-21T14:07:00.000-05:001. The list definitely and defiantly privileges o...1. The list definitely and defiantly privileges older films. They believe the test of time is an important factor in determining greatness. How is that elitism?<BR/><BR/>2. More importantly, the number of classic films that were dismissed at the time of release by critics/audiences/AMPAS etc is mindboggling. For example, if this list was made thirty or forty years ago, Picnic would likely rank higher than Night of the Hunter.<BR/><BR/>3. Oldboy?!? OLDBOY?!? Whatthefuck? I think Donnie Darko's overrated as it is (I can think of thirty films from 2001 that are much stronger), but OLDBOY?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?<BR/><BR/>4. Starship Troopers over Basic Instinct? Hells to the yeah that's the right move. No Jerry Maguire? Yep. No Secrets and Lies? Probably not (Leigh's definitely under represented). Nothing from Merchant-Ivory? Definitely William Wyler syndrome. But lists do, by their vary nature, provoke dissent. And while I'd rate all those in my top 1000, they might not make my top fifty/hundred, and that's where the problem comes from, I suspect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com