Friday, March 12, 2010

Lingering Golden Questions (Oscar Night Recedes)

I guarantee that this is the last post about Oscar night! Or wait. No. Second to last.

What was Meryl taking pictures of with her iPhone? And why can't we see them? Meryl e-mail them to the film experience immediately! (Include your phone number. Plz and thx).

Is Sean Penn really not an official Academy member? He said so in his incoherent speech. So does this mean Guy With Opinions has never been able to share them on an Oscar ballot box? Weirdness.

Do you think Claudia Rose and David E Kelley are pissed that it's never been "Pfeiffer's Turn"? Pfeiffer's daughter and husband (who weirdly has no hit television series on the air at the moment) accompanied her to the big show.


It's always somebody's "turn" in Hollywood (this year: Bullock & Bridges). Do you think that Hollywood types make peace with Their Turn never happening after the first several fuckover moments and that umpteenth ginormous paycheck? Or do you think it eats at them... or at least their loved ones?

Whose unlikely turn is next? People will pretend otherwise (hindsight being 20/20) but if you had told people in 2006 that Mickey Rourke had a near win in his future, they'd have laughed at you. If you had told people in 2007 (or, hell, even last summer) that Sandra Bullock would be a winner by 2010... same result. So what horrors and/or satisfying surprises await: Kathleen Turner, Jennifer Aniston, Molly Ringwald, Demi Moore, Keanu Reeves, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Marsha Mason, a second Oscar for Cuba Gooding Jr? Impossible sounding things are always happening in Hollyweird.

Can Maggie and Jake make another movie together? They're not like Warren & Shirley. They like each other! It's been almost 10 years since Donnie Darko and they're infinitely bigger stars now. Pretty please?


Was anyone fired on Monday, March 8th? Because we think whoever played "I am Woman" as Kathryn Bigelow's exit music and "Thank Heaven For Little Girls" as Amanda Seyfried's entrance music, should've been.

Why do we feel like Carey Mulligan is already plotting her Oscar night revenge? She's taking business cards, still playing sweet sixteen (she's 24), working that innocent pixie. Just below the surface lies an impish schemer! (We're guessing). Surely she knows that she's the surest thing going in Young Hollywood in terms of the Oscar-Winner-To-Be mantle.

But will they make her wait as long as Dame Kate Winslet? Sorry... Dame-To-Be.

When Colin Farrell and Jeremy Renner were spooning did... okay okay, I'm stopping. I'm stopping. I get obsessive. Oscars over and out. There are no answers to these haunting questions anyway. If you beg to differ, please provide them in the comments.

48 comments:

Hayden said...

This decade proved the Commonly Held Oscar Truths pretty unflappable: if you look closely, the only truly ubiquitious, important actress in terms of red carpets and Oscar mythology who wasn't awarded was Julianne Moore. Kidman, Zellweger, Blanchett, Winslet, all made out with awards. Whether or not they're the "best" collectively, those five are who I'd nominate as the most Oscarable women of the decade.

Julianne Moore is looking more and more like the Glenn Close of the aughts.

Film said...

Oh, wouldn't it be wonderful if my honey Winona Ryder has an "It's her turn" moment? She's been nom'd twice before but it's been so long and she's SOOOO due a decent comeback. Maybe in Darren Arronofsky's Black Swan?

NATHANIEL R said...

Hayden... that's totally true -- Julianne is basically the only shut out of the Very Important Ones. Except that the 80s were terrible to the "oscarable women" so it's more than just being the Glenn Close of this time. Julianne Moore is to this past decade as Glenn Close + MichellePeiffer + KathleenTurner + Sigweavie were to the 80s. The Most Important Actresses of the 80s were basically all shut out (save Meryl & Jessica)

Anonymous said...

So supposedly the LA Times just outted Jeremy Renner...This just makes the Colin thing just that much hotter...

Anonymous said...

I thought her daughter was Rae Dawn Chong.

Michael said...

Hey, I'm glad you mentioned 4 time Oscar nominee Marsha Mason. She never won and was so big in the
70's and early 80's. She should have won Oscar at some point. Why is she not getting more roles for a woman her age...oh, thats right, Ellen Burstyn gets all of those parts.

brandz said...

this year's Oscars prove to me how irrelevant the Oscars are really becoming. it really was SOOOO bad.

Robert Hamer said...

Bill Mechanic and Adam Shankman should be banned from ever producing an Academy Awards ceremony ever. They'll probably be asked to do it again though, since, you know, ratings always mean quality to television executive dittoheads.

par3182 said...

in answer to your colin/jeremy question...

yes.

Your Mother said...

Nat, what's happening with the Film Bitch Awards??? There are so many categories to be filled, and when are you going to announce the awards??? You should have done it before Oscar night, as it would have been more exciting. I'm a little bit dissapointed...

Jen said...

Thank you for sharing that pic of Michelle with her husbadn and daughter.

Sean said...

If it's going to be anyone's turn in upcoming years, I hope it's Mia Farow's. Her never being nominated is still, I believe, the most heinous total acting snub in AMPAS history.

Melanie said...

Maggie and Jake DEFINITELY need to make another movie together. The sooner the better!

Oh... and...... I, too, wonder about Colin Farrell and Jeremy Renner...

Anonymous said...

I thought Claudia Rose looks a lot like Michelle. She looks gorgeous.

NATHANIEL R said...

Your Mother... you and me both. but it is what it is. I have to pay rent, you know.

They're about to shut down the site again anyway so i'll just have to complete them on the side for when the site goes back up.

jimmy said...

marsha mason doesn't get many roles because she got fat. sad, but true. i loved her in cinderella liberty. 1980....diane keaton should have won for reds....marsha a close second for only when i laugh....but Kate "Nah-mahn, the loons" Hepburn won undeservedly. when you really take a look at her films / who she was nominated against - hepburn should really only have 1 - suddenly last summer. streep should have 4 - the 2 she has + ironweed + doubt.

jimmy said...

people who i wish had won - kathleen turner in "Peggy sue got married" i love that movie. ian mccellum (sp) in "god's and monsters" - WOW!!! very happy geena davis won for the accidental tourist - one of my favoriet movies.

Hayden said...

Well I guess the commonly held truth I was referring to is Oscars way of awarding actresses while they're hot and making actors wait until they've cooled off a little bit.

The big glitch in this equation is that for actresses, the current system (post-80's, I suppose) doesn't really value consistency, unless you're Kate Winslet. For actresses it seems like once the Academy starts taking your work for granted, it's too late for you. You don't see many "career awards" for actresses, when it seems like every other year we have a "career award" for actors.

DJ said...

"Surely she knows that she's the surest thing going in Young Hollywood in terms of the Oscar-Winner-To-Be mantle."

A bit premature? What about Michelle Williams? Keira Knightley? Emily Blunt? I don't see why such a claim would be made for Carey when she's given one good performance.

DJ said...

Sorry, it just makes me upset that you're already comparing her to Kate Winslet! What about all the other actresses who have given JUST as good of performances if not better? Why is she the next Kate Winslet?

NATHANIEL R said...

DJ -- I stand by it. she just seems like the type. whereas Emily Blunt hasn't been able to get traction for two performances that looked like they might get traction. Keira Knightley has the same problem and Michelle Williams is too "remote" in her screen persona. They like the cute warm charm girls better. And Williams? too cerebral/aloof for the academy i'm guessing in the long run.

i think other than possibly HATHAWAY, Mulligan is the surest thing (provided AN EDUCATION wasn't a fluke and I really really doubt it was)

Hayden -- you're so smart tonight! That's totally true. that's why momentum is everything for them. They had to reward Renee Z for example because she was not going to let up until they did. And for as much as i think her performances got worse along the way, you do have to give her credit for keeping them "varied" (comedy, period drama, musical) enough to keep the academy's interest rather than moving into their 'taken you for granted' phase.

Anonymous said...

DJ-agree with you

DJ said...

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think someone wins based on if their a "cute charm girl." It depends on the body of work they've built for themselves and also the timing (and sometimes the performance itself). Kate Winslet never had such a persona. In fact, none of the last 10 winners had unless you include Witherspoon and Roberts who obviously had the "career best" going for them.

You seem to be a big fan of Hathaway and Mulligan, and I think we all carry personal bias with us (myself included). But to hail Mulligan as the most likely to be the first of my generation's Best Actress winners sounds incredibly premature seeing as she's just given one good performance.

Hayden said...

I think that works in Mulligan's favor, though. As much money as I would put on Anne Hathaway someday becoming an Oscar winner, I think there's something to be said for Mulligan bursting onto the scene with such a universally acclaimed performance. She hasn't had the ups and downs that someone like Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman have had in the "pre-adult actress" phase.

For an actress transitioning into adult roles half the battle is figuring yourself out as a talent...I think An Education all but launches Mulligan into the next step. There's no confusion, no toying with her skills...she's got it. And she's ready.

NATHANIEL R said...

jimmy -- nah. Streep only should have 3 by now. kramer / sophies / prada ok... maybe 4 (postcards?) At least most people agree that she won her first two deservedly. and most people don't win uncontroversial oscars if you think about it.

1987 shoulda gone to CLOSE (Fatal Attraction) although i was way happy for CHER (Moonstruck) and think it's a super performance, too

DJ -- sure i like Mulligan but it's not personal bias (it might be with Hathaway who i ADORE) because i have no idea *howmuch* i like her (because as you say... not much to go on!)

it's just the way i see it.

Oscar really really really likes cute charming girls. I don't see how that's a controversial statement? I personally think Michelle Williams is an amazing actress but i am unconvinced that she's ever going to be an oscar winner. for the same reason i think samantha morton and julianne moore might never be (too cerebral... too consistent... never "the belle of the ball")

anyway... it's just a guess.

and one more thing (god, i'm a chatterbox tonight sorry) I wasn't comparing her to WINSLET. I was saying "unless they make her wait like they made Winslet wait". the comparison was only ... 'unless that happens'

i don't think there is another Winslet. and it makes me crazy that everyone always wants everyone else to be "the next ______________" because the true greats (like Winslet) are just themselves.

Hayden said...

Well, put simply, Winslet has one of the most unique relationships with the Academy EVER. She's very much an exception. Her career is like a perfect mirror image of Judi Dench's, who also has an anomalous relationship with the AMPAS for different reasons.

DJ said...

Apologies for misreading the last statement then... it just seemed that subtext was screaming, "She's bound to be a Kate Winslet!" I hate the comparison thing as well.

To me, she can be cute all she wants, but there's no telling who will win the Oscar first. I'm a fan of other actresses beside her so I just jumped the gun and got a bit defensive. If she scores another nomination this year for NEVER LET ME GO, then I'll be impressed and reconsider. Honestly I think Lawrence and Williams will be this years Best Actress nominees for the younger crowd.

And for the record, while she may not be "cute," I think Keira is very charming. :) She's got a good couple of years coming up, so I won't be surprised if she makes a couple of splashes herself.

Hayden said...

Oh my god I had almost totally forgotten Keira Knightley was even on the landscape of young actresses. How does that happen so quickly?! I loved Atonement!

DJ said...

(p.s. and maybe it's the fact that I like more "aloof" girls? You never see Williams and Knightley presenting at the Oscars, showing up at all the parties, etc... but that's something we've seen Hathaway do and perhaps we'll see Mulligan do it more as all. And of course that will work in their favor. I think the fact that I'm turned off by actresses like them is the fact that it comes across as "Oscar" begging or "put me in your next film" begging. They are GOOD actresses, it's just the off-screen persona I'm not sure of yet. I REALLY hated Hathaway's personality during her Oscar run two years ago.)

Hayden said...

DJ, don't forget, it's about the performance, not the politics! Leave it on the floor, baby!

Bryan said...

I don't think that Michelle is mad about not getting an Oscar. She's been away from Oscar for a long enough time that she probably (sadly) has quasi-given up and is OK with her fate.

Julianne, however, has had quite a few nominations in the past decade, and so she's probably more frustrated (because it came so close to happening so many times).

DJ said...

Hayden, I know, I know. It's my own personal bias coming out. I'm just griping! :)

It should be a VERY good year for actresses this year.

John T said...

I still think Julianne is trying to get one-I don't know if she ever will, but she hasn't really given up on winning the Oscar.

Hathaway/Adams/Barrymore/Aniston are all probably going to start hunting for that elusive "America's Sweetheart" Oscar. Every couple of years, America's sweetheart gets crowned at the Oscars, ala Roberts/Bullock/Witherspoon/Paltrow, so I suspect we'll see one of their names on an Oscar ballot in the next 3-4 years (you could make an argument for any of them).

My lingering Oscar question this year (aside from where the video footage of Jeremy Renner and Colin Farrell is) is whether the recent trend amongst the creme de la creme of actresses in television movies would have resulted in Oscar nominations for the like of Drew Barrymore, Jessica Lange, Joan Allen, and Shirley MacLaine could have gotten them invited to the Kodak.

DJ said...

The one thing that Hathaway seems to be successful at is switching between commercial films and prestige films. She doesn't get any hack for doing films like Valentine's Day, etc... on the contrary, she's probably the most popular young actress around. So comparing her to Julie Roberts doesn't quite work because I can see her being nominated several times.

Glenn said...

I agree that Carey is their type. Next nomination will be for The Seagull if that ever gets up.

I keep thinking the next "it's time" person will be Meg Ryan for some reason, but then I went to her IMDb and saw she's not even working atm (one movie that'll probably go direct-to-DVD this year).

I hope the last few years have been a warmup for Michelle Pfeiffer and that she'll deliver a performance this year or next that will force them to sit up and take notice.

Hayden said...

Pfeiffer will need an Away From Her to land herself an Oscar, IMO. I don't see it happening until she's officially "aged."

Walter L. Hollmann said...

Sean Penn is like Groucho Marx: he doesn't want to belong to a club that would have him as a member.

Put more truthfully: he's not part of an organization, because he's an INDEPENDENT and a REBEL, man!

Anonymous said...

I love this site and you in general Nathaniel. Drunken friday night post. Haha.

- Sean C.

Dorian said...

Along with Mo'Nique's outfit as a tribute to Hattie McDaniel, all of the ladies from "Precious" (Gabby, Mo, Oprah, Sherri, & Mariah) were wearing blue as a tribute to Sapphire. I love that personally.

Fernando Moss said...

I think Pfeiffer will get her revenge and grab an Oscar when she's in her 80's probably robbing a young deserving actress, so we all could remember that that's exactly what happened to her...

Ishmael said...

Surely Mulligan is no more a sure thing now than Johansson was after 2004?!
The hype is starting to annoy me somewhat.

mrripley said...

i can't look at colin farrell without thinking of him in his porn with his hairy cock out.

mrripley said...

Hathaway deinitely is up there with the oscar princesses,amanda seyfried is someone i feel hollywood is embracing and getting behind.

i think diaz getting an oscar nom is done but i do thin kswank may get a 3rd nom next year.

pomme said...

my one and only question is :is Carey Mulligan the hidden daughter of Mike Myers?

Glenn said...

Ishmael, thing is Carey already has an Oscar nomination whereas ScarJo does not.

Kev said...

Sean Penn's never been an Academy member. I thought that was common knowledge. Every time he's nominated, right after he's beck on the invitation list asked to join again, and each time he refuses admission. Guess he's trying to keep his "integrity" as an actor intact or something.

Anonymous said...

Glenn, Thats is true. Mulligan got a best actress nomination and we all know the acdemy didnt embrace ScarJo for her work in Lost in Trans.

Also is important to remember that even before An Education Carey already was doing great things on Theatear, playing Nina on Seagull.

I really think she will continue to work on small films more character driven. being very excited

Peggy Sue said...

Oh! I love this post!
First of all, thanks for showing us Michelle's family or as I called them 'the reason why she's no longer a huge star'. Nice.

True Fact: Julianne's the only significant actress of this decade to be ignored by the Academy. So sad cause she's the best.

In my own perfect world, all the great actresses of the 80s will get recognized in the future and I will die happy.

Carey: I also believe she's Oscars material

Jake and Maggie: I love both of them, almost in a sick way!