
The Film Experience's Holy Trinity -- wait... oops. I'm so bad at math -- (American Division), wishes you a wonderful holiday. Celebrate safely! I'm off to watch friends and play with fireworks and. Or... I... I'm off!


Not the director's fault when the audience willfully ignores the complexities they present.Michael C weighs in on whether UNFORGIVEN lives up to its reputation in the latest episode of Best Pictures From the Outside In.
As for those complexities, if you feel Eastwood and Peoples leaned too far into making Munny sympathetic you must also acknowledge that they put the same wrinkles into Little Bill. He's certainly no simple villian in a black hat. Bill is very likable, certainly more so than William Munny, especially in his dealing with the writer. Little Bill has a sense of justice, however warped, and his transgressions are in the service of keeping the peace whereas Munny and Ned are hired assassins.
The biggest knock against Little Bill is the sickening violence he uses to his purposes, particularly in his beating of Ned. But aside from being paid killers, Peoples and Eastwood make a point of emphasizing that Munny was no mere hardened gunfighter but in fact a merciless murderer of women in children with Ned as his willing accomplice. No bones about it, Munny is the most evil man on screen. Hell, he almost shoots the writer out of pure orneriness. So who exactly is the good guy here?
...I think you're really selling this one short.
... i swear to god. Every single episode it's like he convinces me even more that everyone on god's green earth should be casting him in something. Immediately. Plus: hot. In related news: Dollhouse has finally become, in its last four or five episodes what I always hoped it would be (sniffle).
24 chatty moviegoers:
Julianne's performance in the new Blindness trailer looks fantastic...
http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/blindness/large.html
Holy Trinity?
...Uma?
When has she ever been put on this level before? I would've thought if anyone were to disrupt the math of the Holy Trinity, it'd be Winslet.
I was surprised to see Uma too.
I always assumed the Holy Trinity was: "In the name of the Meryl, the Julianne and the Holy Pfeiffer..."
I still think Winslet got shortchanged.
personally i'm SOOO EXCITED to see Uma up there!!!!!!!!!!!
"if anyone were to disrupt the math of the Holy Trinity, it'd be Winslet."
He meant something by "American Division", you know. =)
eh? uma thurman when did she get to strrep level.
I would like to add to the chorus of, "Uma?!"
Personally, I'm surprised you didn't include "The Linney." Abigail Adams? Come on. The only thing more patriotic than Laura Linney is apple pie.
Uma Thurman is a fantastic choice because she's so talented but also so different (comparatively speaking among Moore, Pfeiffer and Streep).
PLUS: She's the youngest in the list and has 3 iconic roles (Mia, Beatrix and June)- so far- and other fine performances in films like Hysterical Blindness, Tape, The Producers (?)...
I'm happy... I love Uma and she deserves a better career (but still... she's amazing, what a presence!)
nat,out of meryls 14 nommed permormances which do you think she should not have been nommed for
my choices are
ironweed
the french leutenant's woman
music of the heart
postcards from the edge
out of africa - she should have got the nod for plenty instead
she should've been nommed for the hours and the manchurian candidate
I love Uma Thurman... everytime I see her my heart explodes!
well the Holy Trinity (american division) is definitely MERYL, JULIANNE, and MICHELLE.
but my heart leaps like luigi when I see Uma so I just stuck her in on a whim. She looks good standing there, don'cha think?
Holy Trinity British Division is probably
KATE WINSLET
JULIE CHRISTIE
TILDA SWINTON
but other than KATE who basicallly does job-sharing with MERYL for the actul last trinity spot most of the ladies i talk about consistently (UMA, the BENING, ANNE H, KIKI etcetera are part of the "Second Circle Corps" (Thanks to AMIR for the name of their status!) and it's too large to get into...
and includes everyone from UMA to THE BENING to ANNE HATHAWAY
... Nathaniel, and your non-English-Speaking Trinity?
My Holy Trinity British Division is probably:
MIRANDA RICHARDSON
MINNIE DRIVER
VANESSA REDGRAVE
JULIE CHRISTIE (just because I loved so much in "Away from Her")
oops... I'm lousy at Math.
Is there an Aussie Trinity?
Kidman
Collette
and...?
I assume you're too hot and cold on Watts and Blanchett for them to take part. There must be another BIG Aussie actress, but I can't think of who it is.
Luigi, the non-english language trinity is not really a trinity but a DENEUVE
followed by dozens of ladies in waiting including Carmen Maura, Victoria Abril, Franka Potente, Maggie Cheung, Gong Li, Isabelle Huppert, Emmanuelle Beart, etcetera...
I feel like the Aussie Trinity would be Kidman, Collette, and Judy Davis (who not only delivered one of Nat's fave performances ever in Husbands and Wives, but also won an Emmy for playing Judy Garland). Though most people's Aussie trinities would replace her with Blanchett (and maybe Collette with Watts).
Oh, god. My British Trinity would be comprised of Julie, Maggie, and Emma, with Vanessa as the lady-in-waiting.
dfor a while there i thought..
Sex & The City: the movie
casting director: God
//I feel like the Aussie Trinity would be Kidman, Collette, and Judy Davis//
I could live with that, Adam. I finally got to see My Brilliant Career just last year (it's finally been transferred to DVD) and she was wonderful. Actually she's been wonderful in a lot of things over the last 20-some years and consistently, eternally underrated (ie doesn't have the career or fame she deserves.)
Three degrees of separation from Baz note - Don McAlpine was the cinematographer on Career.
Watts was actually very fine in Painted Veil, methinks, but she's more famous (thanks to the Kidman connection) than she ought to be, given the choices she's made thus far. (I'm not saying she lacks talent btw, just that there are others just as deserving of her fame if not moreso.)
Fun.
A Canadian Trinity: Genevieve Bujold, Sarah Polley and Sandra Oh (I love Molly Parker too, but there was only room for three).
Aussie Trinity: Blanchett, Davis and Kidman definitely.
French trinity: Isabelle Huppert, Emmanuelle Beart (the beauty, my God), Emmanuelle Devos.
Watts is Aussi Trinity material, y'all !
Mulholland Drive
The Ring
21 Grams
I Heart Huckabees
King Kong
The Painted Veil
Eastern Promises
Funny Games
that's all
Mulholland Drive? Yes
The Ring? Meh
21 Grams? Dear God NO.
I Heart Huckabees? Yes
King Kong? Meh
The Painted Veil? Okay.
Eastern Promises? Worst part of the film.
Funny Games? Haven't seen.
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